Re: whatever in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18113269 en Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:57:23 EDT Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:57:23 EDT Re: whatever http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18115762 RadioDoc : Agreed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18115762 Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:04:28 EDT Re: whatever http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18115421 openbox9 :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

indicative of someone who is not in control of their life.
I'll agree with that. I think we're saying the same thing, just in a different manner.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18115421 Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:02:08 EDT Re: whatever http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18115332 RadioDoc :
said by openbox9 See Profile :

It's not totally about losing money. It's about efficiency and what a person's time is worth. People that are worth that much per hour have already tasked/delegated functions and responsibilities to subordinates and still have work (most likely even more important work) that needs to be done...in the office, in the car, on a plane, etc. Time is money. Any competent business person knows that ;)
Point being that an efficient business person knows how to manage time. Having your workday dictated by an airline (the 'if I can't work/chat on my cellphone/surf the Internet/snore/fart I lose thousands of dollars' crowd) is indicative of someone who is not in control of their life.
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And before some crusading moderator wanders by and accuses me of a "personal attack", "you" is not directed at you personally.
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An note: I did say "that is the claim", so I really have no clue if those people I see slaving away are inefficient or making a lot of dollars per hour.
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As far as business class "needing" BB, there are people who travel coach that have the same "need", they are just more frugal or lack the upgrade miles (or in my case with American, flying cheapo non-upgradable government tickets).

Good question on how it will work, it would make too much sense to be a standard system that most newer laptops have built-in.
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Any work being done en route will be done for whomever I feel like doing it for.

I stand by my previous statements. Any competent business person knows how to avoid losing money while in transit.
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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Truthfully, nobody is that important.
Says you. This statement continues to be rehashed every time someone brings up evil corporations and/or highly paid execs. Fact of the matter is that there are people worth that much money. What about consultants hired for a job? If I'm paying a consultant $10K for a day or two, he/she better damn well work during travel that I'm paying for. OTOH, a lot of people that "think" they are worth that much money in reality are not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18112651 Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:47:08 EDT Re: whatever http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18112290 ric b : Never been on a Delta flight that didn't give me the whole can of soda after pouring those four ounces in the cup for me.

The people who "need" broadband on a plane are the same people who pay or who work for a company that pays way too much for a business class seat that arrives at the airport at the same time that the coach seats arrive. The differeences, are a bit more legroom and a bigger seat, actual silverware served on a china plate. More drinks/free drinks, and less people to wait in line for when you have to go to the bathroom. Other than that, there's no advantages.

Are people going to have to buy a special laptop adapter that fits into a special proprietery fitting for each airline? Are they going to be available for rental with the airline? Are the people who "need" inet access on a plane going to actually use it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18112290 Tue, 03 Apr 2007 19:42:39 EDT Re: whatever http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18112275 RadioDoc :
said by RayW See Profile :

Well, to some people the 2-4 hours spent in a plane boils down to thousands if not more dollars an hour lost (well, that is the claim).
Truthfully, nobody is that important. If they lose that much money while airborne they're lives are out of control and are horrid business people.

Anyone truly that important to a business has backup plans and delegates critical work to others just in case something worse than a gate hold happens.
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said by ric b See Profile :

With the prices they charge for plane phones, I can't imagine how ridiculous the prices for broadband would be on a plane. And I agree, they won't serve you snacks on a flight anymore or can't find enough pillows or balnkies to keep warm, why do people really need to use the internet while on a plane?
Well, to some people the 2-4 hours spent in a plane boils down to thousands if not more dollars an hour lost (well, that is the claim).

But maybe the real reason is to take your mind off of what has been deleted. I remember Delta having a killer sandwich and soup between DFW and LAX, now you are lucky to get an ounce of cheap imitation cracker pieces, and on some airlines, one cup of a drink (about 4 ounces I think since it looks like they got three servings out of a can) is all you get for drinks (unless you pony up for the booze).
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