moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to RideRed
Re: Why can they bury them?
said by RideRed  :Why can't these be put in a pit with a plate over them? Cost. Plain and simple. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| said by moonpuppy :said by RideRed :Why can't these be put in a pit with a plate over them? Cost. Plain and simple. It's not "plain and simple" cost; you people sure have a way of beating a dead strawman.
RT's need to be accessed on a pretty regular basis- exactly how would you accomplish this with it buried underground? Keep in mind you'd need access all sides of the cabinet with room to work, while also keeping it protected from the elements and accessable even when there's a foot of snow on the ground, and providing for airflow for the fans in the Summer.
In order to do this, you'd need a very large hole... and then there'd be complaints about the 10 x 10 x 10 foot hole being dug in someone's yard. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by dynodb :It's not "plain and simple" cost; you people sure have a way of beating a dead strawman. RT's need to be accessed on a pretty regular basis- exactly how would you accomplish this with it buried underground? Keep in mind you'd need access all sides of the cabinet with room to work, while also keeping it protected from the elements and accessable even when there's a foot of snow on the ground, and providing for airflow for the fans in the Summer. In order to do this, you'd need a very large hole... and then there'd be complaints about the 10 x 10 x 10 foot hole being dug in someone's yard. So tell me then how can Verizon do FIOS without those boxes? I have it in my neighborhood and nothing that big is in my area and the cable junctions are smaller than the in-ground feed points for electrical service.
Thank you for proving my point. It would cost more to submerge the RT than do do it above ground.
ATT is trying to get off doing this the easy way. They either need more thought or a better plan. Until the higher ups have one of these on their property, then they need to be more attentive to the citizens they deploy to.  |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| FIOS, IPTV and cable broadband are completely different technologies with different infrastructure- you can't compare them.
Yes, it would be possible to put RT's underground, and yes it would be more expensive... but more importantly it's not terribly practical, especially considering the drawbacks (access to the RT, flooding, snow, etc) and that the only benefit is aesthetics.
Seriously, I doubt it even would occur to the telcos to put them underground. The company I work for has over 10,000 RTs and I've not once even heard the possibility of them being installed underground even mentioned, much less considered. |
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to dynodb
said by dynodb :RT's need to be accessed on a pretty regular basis- exactly how would you accomplish this with it buried underground? ... In order to do this, you'd need a very large hole... and then there'd be complaints about the 10 x 10 x 10 foot hole being dug in someone's yard. Like he said, cost. Many people would give them a long term lease on a 10'x10' patch with an access hatch and landscaping, for a price! Not easy, not convenient, but if it didn't cost so much why wouldn't they avoid the aggravation?
Electric utilities can put entire substations underground if so ordered, but they usually can charge ratepayers instead of having to worry about being profitable.
AT&T also could have run fiber direct to homes, but they decided to try this instead because it's cheaper.
When people say "It's just not practical" they often mean "That would cost too much."
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| said by ArgMeMatey :
In order to do this, you'd need a very large hole... and then there'd be complaints about the 10 x 10 x 10 foot hole being dug in someone's yard.
Like he said, cost. Many people would give them a long term lease on a 10'x10' patch with an access hatch and landscaping, for a price! Not easy, not convenient, but if it didn't cost so much why wouldn't they avoid the aggravation?
ATTENTION VZ:
I will give you all the space you want to put in any kind of equipment in my yard you want.
No lease, no strings, just BRING THE FIOS ON!
So long as I get Fios DATA I don't care. Less I have to mow.
Oh... no need to worry there won't be any landscaping around it either unless VZ is doing it an plans on keeping it up. Droughts smoughts.... grass dies, it will grow a again.
Need space for a self supproting tower...NO PROBLEM. Now there will be some strings attached to that one. I need 5-6 spaces at about 50-60 ft. for some antennas and we have a deal.
Just cut the whiners off! |
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Clemcon
@ameritech.net | reply to dynodb
ATT in Michigan has several first generation RTs that are underground with very good access from ground level. 2nd generation units are all above ground in brick buildings/huts while the newest units are housed in above ground cabinets. |
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degauss1
join:2001-07-02
Hillsboro, OR
 ·ViaTalk
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
·Axvoice
| reply to ArgMeMatey
You hit it right on the head. They had a choice of what technology the deployed. If they had chosen FTTP it would have cost more money - but they would not have had to use these big RT cabinets. The VDSL was cheaper to deploy but requires these huge cabinets.
All that and they are going to have to eventually move to fiber anyway. What a huge waste of money and time not to mention the aggravation to the public. |
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