nicecaps
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Re: Until this gets mainstream press....
OK 100 gigs beats Cox with their 40 gigs down/ 10 gigs up per month cap. What a ****ing joke!  |
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RideRed
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USA | At least you know what the cap is even if Cox rarely enforces it. |
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inteller
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Tulsa, OK | reply to nicecaps
how did you discover that cap? I'm not aware of such low cox caps. |
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RideRed
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1 edit | »www.cox.com/policy/limitations.asp
You aren't aware of it because it's rarely if ever enforced. |
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axus
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Caps need to be published for competitive reasons
Yeah, if everyone published their caps then it can be used as a point of competition in advertising. The way it is now, companies don't like to discuss it, because all of them would like to not compete on this. When they do, caps necessarily match the highest competitor.
Here are the things I can think of that can be competed on:
price
average uptime (95% is probably fine for homes)
downstream bandwidth
upstream bandwidth
download cap
upload cap
average latency
customer service |
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Nintendo
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2 edits | reply to RideRed
Re: Until this gets mainstream press....
Yes, i have Cox and regularly download in excess of 200 + gigs
(usually linux iso's on Bit torrent )
I should also mention i have done this for about 5 years now |
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KoolMoe
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Re: Caps need to be published for competitive reasons
Generally agree. But if providers not only published their caps but also had a 'your bandwidth usage this month' meters, you know many folks would push it to the bare limit. Providers may pick a random number, say 10gb, to trigger a warning but that doesn't mean that everyone doing 9.9gb is ok...
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| reply to Nintendo
Re: Until this gets mainstream press....
quote:
Yes, i have Cox and regularly download in excess of 200 + gigs
(usually linux iso's on Bit torrent )
How many linux ISOs can you possibly need? Even if you wanted to try a new distro every week you shouldn't be pulling 200GB/month.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
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| said by djrobx  : quote:
Yes, i have Cox and regularly download in excess of 200 + gigs
(usually linux iso's on Bit torrent )
How many linux ISOs can you possibly need? Even if you wanted to try a new distro every week you shouldn't be pulling 200GB/month. Linux ISOs on bittorent, the only PC, non-copy vio thing you can do on Bittorrent  |
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Nintendo
join:2007-03-17
3 edits | well, I usually keep the bit torrent client on so one Iso will transfer 20 + gigs total for each one
and just in case you are not aware there are a lot of distributions out there 4+ gigs in size
Also in case you are not aware many security distributions used for penetration testing are updated almost weekly, with no update ability (for testing purposes). Agian this is just one example |
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Re: Caps need to be published for competitive reasons
said by KoolMoe :Generally agree. But if providers not only published their caps but also had a 'your bandwidth usage this month' meters, you know many folks would push it to the bare limit. The people who would push it to the limit would only be the ones currently pushing it beyond the limit.
If you only surf, download say 2-3 gigs a month, then why would you suddenly go on a tear and "push it to the limit" if they told you the cap was 50 gigs a month?
I suspect providing the tools would allow people more control over their usage and would enable competition. I think this is the real reason they don't want to reveal the "invisible" caps.
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said by axus :average uptime (95% is probably fine for homes) Unless my math is on crack, at 24 hours per day, 31 days per month, 95% uptime guarantee also meaning the equivalent of a 5% loss, would be an approximate downtime of up to 37 hours per month.
Nowhere near acceptable to me.
I just wanted to pick on that one point.
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Re: Until this gets mainstream press....
said by inteller :how did you discover that cap? I'm not aware of such low cox caps. its on the cox website
Value - 4gb down, 1gb up
preferred - 40gb down, 10gb up
premiere - 60gb down, 12.5gb up
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| reply to patcat88
said by patcat88 :said by djrobx : quote:
Yes, i have Cox and regularly download in excess of 200 + gigs
(usually linux iso's on Bit torrent )
How many linux ISOs can you possibly need? Even if you wanted to try a new distro every week you shouldn't be pulling 200GB/month. Linux ISOs on bittorent, the only PC, non-copy vio thing you can do on Bittorrent Yes and no, don't forget about the WOW updates that use the BT protocol. While you don't use a standard client, you do use BT to download them, which sucks majorly for people that have an ISP that throttles BT traffic.
But, that is just my 2 cents. Like anybody cares...  |
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