RadioDoc
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Re: LOL
La Grange's love affair with TIFs did far more than the Calendar Court Mall ever did to revitalize downtown La Grange. Now its getting full of poseurs and wannabes and nauseatingly cute shops. At least they spend money and LG collects their sales taxes, although a lot of long-time retail businesses got squeezed out due to rents tripling, which is rather ironic.
South of the Mason-Dixon line (47th St.) we see none of that TIF love. Probably just as well; as a commercial property owner I don't think I want the headaches.
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batageek
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I remember LaGrange's own "mall" quite well.
Much better now that it's opened back up, but I do remember when it was cranking as well. I spent too much of my early youth there... |
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patcat88
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Jamaica, NY | reply to RadioDoc
Oh god, I know what your talking about. I have to deal with one every day. Hobos sleep in the tree pots.  |
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RadioDoc
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If you're younger than about 35 you probably don't remember them, but to "save" downtown many cities created pedestrian malls which replaced main shopping streets. With few exceptions they were disasters.
One article (among many you can google for) is here: »www.emich.edu/public/geo/557book···lls.html
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lawrence171
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Canada | reply to Cthen
Toronto Hydro's One Zone wifi services is great. |
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patcat88
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said by RadioDoc  :To me, these seem like the 'downtown malls' which were supposed to be the savior of urban center shopping as streets were closed and streetscapes took their place. Problem is, folks are lazy and didn't want to walk three blocks from parking to the stores...they can do that at the suburban mall and get better selection with less hassle. So, the 'downtown mall' is extinct. What are you refering to in the real world? (not wifi related) |
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RadioDoc
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The technology is fragile, and that doesn't change regardless of who is running it. A muni or commercial network has the same interference, coverage and marketing problems.
To me, these seem like the 'downtown malls' which were supposed to be the savior of urban center shopping as streets were closed and streetscapes took their place. Problem is, folks are lazy and didn't want to walk three blocks from parking to the stores...they can do that at the suburban mall and get better selection with less hassle.
So, the 'downtown mall' is extinct.
Any time you see a governmental agency propping up anything as The Answer to The Problem, you end up with this result.
Being a muni doesn't make you immune. Some would argue it makes you more prone to failure.
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TKJunkMail
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The reply was not specific to this one project, but to the whole city-wide, muni-fi movement no matter how it was funded.
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batageek
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muni fi?
This isn't a muni project.
"The disappointing rollout has convinced city leaders that their decision to turn over construction and operation of the network to Q-Ware was the best move because it minimized risk to the city.
Chang Chun-Hung, director of Taipei's information management center, said the city considered owning the system outright, as some San Francisco supervisors are advocating, but thought it better to turn over the operations to a private corporation with experience. He said it also helps encourage other businesses to use the network."
Is it possible a private sector company has problems with this too? |
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TKJunkMail
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said by Cthen : quote:
Someone declared it "citywide Wi-Fi is over-hyped" week and didn't tell us.
Someone had to tell you? The obvious wasn't enough? LOL  The hype and the idea that muni-wifi would stick it to the telcos and cable companies has clouded some peoples minds about the potential failings of city-wide wifi. It has taken a couple years for the pro wifi propaganda machine to slow down .
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Cthen
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Someone declared it "citywide Wi-Fi is over-hyped" week and didn't tell us.
Someone had to tell you? The obvious wasn't enough? LOL |
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