 RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11
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| reply to batageek Re: LOL
La Grange's love affair with TIFs did far more than the Calendar Court Mall ever did to revitalize downtown La Grange. Now its getting full of poseurs and wannabes and nauseatingly cute shops. At least they spend money and LG collects their sales taxes, although a lot of long-time retail businesses got squeezed out due to rents tripling, which is rather ironic.
South of the Mason-Dixon line (47th St.) we see none of that TIF love. Probably just as well; as a commercial property owner I don't think I want the headaches. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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  batageek Slave To The Duopoly Premium join:2003-01-25 | reply to RadioDoc I remember LaGrange's own "mall" quite well.
Much better now that it's opened back up, but I do remember when it was cranking as well. I spent too much of my early youth there... |
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 patcat88
join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | reply to RadioDoc Oh god, I know what your talking about. I have to deal with one every day. Hobos sleep in the tree pots.  |
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 RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11
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| reply to patcat88 If you're younger than about 35 you probably don't remember them, but to "save" downtown many cities created pedestrian malls which replaced main shopping streets. With few exceptions they were disasters.
One article (among many you can google for) is here: »www.emich.edu/public/geo/557book···lls.html -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 patcat88
join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY
| reply to RadioDoc said by RadioDoc :To me, these seem like the 'downtown malls' which were supposed to be the savior of urban center shopping as streets were closed and streetscapes took their place. Problem is, folks are lazy and didn't want to walk three blocks from parking to the stores...they can do that at the suburban mall and get better selection with less hassle. So, the 'downtown mall' is extinct. What are you refering to in the real world? (not wifi related) |
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 RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11
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| reply to batageek The technology is fragile, and that doesn't change regardless of who is running it. A muni or commercial network has the same interference, coverage and marketing problems.
To me, these seem like the 'downtown malls' which were supposed to be the savior of urban center shopping as streets were closed and streetscapes took their place. Problem is, folks are lazy and didn't want to walk three blocks from parking to the stores...they can do that at the suburban mall and get better selection with less hassle.
So, the 'downtown mall' is extinct.
Any time you see a governmental agency propping up anything as The Answer to The Problem, you end up with this result.
Being a muni doesn't make you immune. Some would argue it makes you more prone to failure. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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