cdnerds
join:2006-06-15
Englishtown, NJ
1 edit | [OOL] FIOS who?
I don't know what all the hype is about... Speeds for OOL are amazing... They were working on the polls in my area couple days ago.. and I just noticed I got an extra 2000kps in upload speeds..... |
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 MidakDoctors suckPremium
join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY | Are you on Boost? |
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 TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | reply to cdnerds
said by cdnerds:I don't know what all the hype is about... Speeds for OOL are amazing... They were working on the polls in my area couple days ago.. and I just noticed I got an extra 2000kps in upload speeds..... Well in NJ, you can get FIOS for $45-50/month which is 20mbps/5mbps, not 15mbps/2mbps like standard OOL. BOOST is another $10-15 a month more, for 30/5, but this is a better deal in Jersey since FIOS charges $180 a month for that service, however there is talk that this will be dropped eventually and the speed will be raised to 50mbps.
The honest truth is that the "sweet" spot is between 10-20mbps today, and that FIOS is the better deal for "most" people, however OOL is #1 for people who can't get FIOS (tons) and a very very close second for people with an option.
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SinRPremium
join:2007-03-29
Brooklyn, NY | reply to cdnerds
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 guyver01In Brightest Day
join:2001-01-04
Littleton, CO | reply to cdnerds
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I am not at home to post a test right now, but I test at 27mbps/4.7mbps on optimum boost. |
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SinRPremium
join:2007-03-29
Brooklyn, NY | said by DJTachyon :
I am not at home to post a test right now, but I test at 27mbps/4.7mbps on optimum boost.
Those results were from BOOST as well. Not a bit close to those numbers though. |
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 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
kudos:4 | reply to DJTachyon
Same for me.. I usually get 23-28Mbps/4-4.6Mbps through my WRT54GL running DD-WRT.
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frindim
join:2004-09-05
Woodcliff Lake, NJ | I switched from IO to Fios, couldnt be happier. There is no comparison. Fiber is where the future is, it doesnt seem like CV has any interest in going FTTP, there for they will inevitably lose. This is the speed I get, I pay for 20/5.
I would recomend the switch! |
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Right now I am pretty happy with Boost - 25-28 mbps + port 80 open is a winner over FIOS for me. Now if Boost would offer static IPs it would be perfect.
FIOS would have to open port 80 for me to switch. It is more important to me than raw speed. |
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ThinkdiffPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
kudos:4 | said by andvari:Right now I am pretty happy with Boost - 25-28 mbps + port 80 open is a winner over FIOS for me. Now if Boost would offer static IPs it would be perfect. FIOS would have to open port 80 for me to switch. It is more important to me than raw speed. Good point. Port 80 makes life a lot easier, as does the free hosting (and free domain that comes with it). FiOS would also have to get their shit together in NYC for me to switch... right now they're saying no FiOS in the bronx until at least 2008 (I live in an area with absolutely no apartment houses, so they could easily bring it there.. just don't want to spend the money).
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said by frindim:I switched from IO to Fios, couldnt be happier. There is no comparison. Fiber is where the future is, it doesnt seem like CV has any interest in going FTTP, there for they will inevitably lose. This is the speed I get, I pay for 20/5. CV has FTTP - Fiber to the POLE  |
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said by frindim:I switched from IO to Fios, couldnt be happier. There is no comparison. Fiber is where the future is, it doesnt seem like CV has any interest in going FTTP, there for they will inevitably lose. This is the speed I get, I pay for 20/5. I would recomend the switch! I think your wrong on that. Cablevision will eventually go fttp .
Cablebvisions fiber network grows everytime a business is added to the lightpath network.
Eventually it will make financial sense for cablevision to fttp but they dont have to totally redo their network right now to compete with verizon.
Remember verizon is completely overhalling their network. Cablevision isnt
BUt stop saying they wil lose if they dont go fttp. That is definately not true. |
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 BootesPremium
join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY
1 edit | reply to cdnerds
And this is Fios... |
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Let's imagine that the entire Cablevision service area has been wired for FIOS... The average Cablevision user that signed up under CV's triple play won't really rush out to obtain FIOS. If they're happy with their service, they have no motivation to leave, except price. The average user doesn't care about Port 80 or Static IP's or any of that stuff. All they want is a solid connection that lets them surf, e-mail, and download whatever.
The true hurdle belongs to Verizon-- they have to win over customers. Cablevision already has them. Unless Verizon can give an amazing offer that appeals to the average user, they may have trouble winning customers onto their FIOS network. |
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frindim
join:2004-09-05
Woodcliff Lake, NJ | reply to majortom1029
I think saying they will lose if they don't go FTTP is a completely fair statement. The point is that FTTP is the future, CVs fiber to the poll is outdated and cannot compete with fiber to the premises. Also, CV treats their customers horrendously and they could for a long time because they were the only game in town. Needless to say, this competition should be good for all consumers as it gives us a choice, forces competitive pricing and makes each company appreciate its customers more. It will also help with new technologies. |
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said by s bassaw:The true hurdle belongs to Verizon-- they have to win over customers. As you pointed out, that is actually the second hurdle. Before doing that, they have to wire the area. There is still a large portion of customers served by CV and Verizon where CV is offering Phone/Broadband (including Boost)/TV and Verizon is offering just phone, or phone and DSL. They have a lot of work to do before they can offer FIOS to many customers, and even more to offer TV over their fiber.
I'm surprised at how slowly Verizon is rolling it FIOS, especially to apartment buildings. I think they are focusing on more profitable areas - where they can charge $199/mo for their premium internet service, instead of $60 or so that they can charge where OOL is available.
said by frindim:The point is that FTTP is the future, CVs fiber to the poll is outdated and cannot compete with fiber to the premises. I think the jury is still out on that one. So far, CV is competing and has multiples of the FIOS market share. We'll have to see what the future holds for coax technology. So far, it is holding it's own.
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said by frindim: Also, CV treats their customers horrendously... Like many of us have never been treated in such a way by various bell companies over the years, including Verizon? |
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TheWiseGuyDog And ButterflyPremium,MVM
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Yonkers, NY
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said by frindim:I think saying they will lose if they don't go FTTP is a completely fair statement. The point is that FTTP is the future, CVs fiber to the poll is outdated and cannot compete with fiber to the premises. You have to understand the MARKET, and the different segments of the market to decide if FTTH will cause CV to "Lose". The vast majority of users do not want or need the power of Fiber to the home.
»arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···748.html
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A tiny segment of Internet users generate almost half of all Internet traffic, according to data from Internet traffic management company Ellacoya. In monitoring traffic across different networks, the company analyzed the data of about 2 million Internet users from August to December of 2006 in order to categorize them into five groups: "bandwidth hogs," "power users," "up and comers," "middle children," and "barely users." As it turns out, bandwidth hogs only make up about 5 percent of the entire Internet-using audience, but generate about 43.5 percent of the total traffic. Conversely, another 40 percent of users—the barely users—make very light use of the Internet and only generate about 3.8 percent of traffic. The remaining 55 percent of users generate the remaining 50 percent of traffic. HFC has a lot of expansion left in the system with new technologies can satisfy most users. If cable companies do not move to HTTH they can lower their prices and capture the average user and still make a profit. Fiber to the Home is a very expensive upgrade and may make it difficult for Verizon to be profitable and compete on price if cable companies decide to use that weapon. While FTTH may be the better service for the very high Bandwidth user, HFC may/should be able to satisfy the average user for a long time.
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What so 50/50 and 100/100 internet conenctions that cablevision can give people using narad is not enough?
so for verizon is not offering symetrical speeds. |
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