russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| Uhh, 97%?
97% of a movie is quite likely watchable, unless they've been careful selecting the parts to remove. And since these disruption companies are authorized to distribute the content, they've just released 97% of it to the world at large absolutely legally... |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| Exactly, they are just as liable as people being sued by the RIAA or MPAA for using Bit Torrent. When you use bit torrent you are only sharing certain parts. Unless you keep seeding for over a month, it's highly doubtful that you supplied the ENTIRE file to an individual.
You can't fight fire with fire. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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I would have to agree, 97% of pretty much anything but a compressed file is pretty much readable. In terms of a movie that would be what? Everything but the credits?
Nice going. You're trying to hinder downloading but uploading everything but the credits to the people who made the film in the first place. |
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Iridium
Premium
join:2003-04-02
Los Angeles, CA
 ·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to cypherstream
said by cypherstream  :Exactly, they are just as liable as people being sued by the RIAA or MPAA for using Bit Torrent. When you use bit torrent you are only sharing certain parts. Unless you keep seeding for over a month, it's highly doubtful that you supplied the ENTIRE file to an individual. You can't fight fire with fire. That's pretty inaccurate. I have seeded 100% copies of a movie several times over. On uTorrent, your ratio is the number of complete copies you have seeded.
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phuntism
join:2003-08-01
Manhattan Beach, CA
| said by Iridium :On uTorrent, your ratio is the number of complete copies you have seeded. Logical argument follows:
Either you're wrong, or you're talking about something else. Basing a BitTorrent "share ratio" on complete copies uploaded doesn't make any sense.
A counter-example to your claim:
You can download .20 of a file, and have a share ratio of 1.50 . Then if you stop uploading, but continue downloading until .40, you will have a share ratio of .75 .
If you decide to disagree for some crazy reason, please bring some kind of supporting evidence.
But I'm not surprised to hear this, I expect this sort of non-sense logic from someone intending to switch to MacOS. (haha, just kidding, had to say it, don't beat me up!) |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
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Yeah but usually at least the few time's I've used bit torrent, when you download something, theres MANY people your uploading and downloading parts to. Lets say your in a swarm with 50 people.
What is the likely hood that Person number 4 downloads his ENTIRE movie from my seed? He's not! He's going to download a tiny bit from me, and a bit from the other 48 people in the swarm.
Ok lets say theres a rare torrent with only 3 people in the swarm. So say user 1 sends me 1/4 of the file, user 2 sends me 1/2 of the file (since he's a little faster), and I get the rest from user 3. Still I haven't obtained the entire file from one user. How would anyone be held liable for copyright infringement when they don't ever upload the whole file? Without the whole file the movie or music or whatever it is, would be unrecognizable.
The only time I've seen where someone could be legally liable for copyright infringement is if its SO RARE that there is only 1 seeder, its a small file, and I am the only person joining the swarm. In that case say I download the entire file from the seeder, since there are no other participating users. This is a RARE case in movies and music. |
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sivran
Long Live The Suite
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
clubs: | And if you think it matters whether or not you upload the entire thing to any particular peer, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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Iridium
Premium
join:2003-04-02
Los Angeles, CA
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to phuntism
said by phuntism :said by Iridium :On uTorrent, your ratio is the number of complete copies you have seeded. Logical argument follows: Either you're wrong, or you're talking about something else. Basing a BitTorrent "share ratio" on complete copies uploaded doesn't make any sense. A counter-example to your claim: You can download .20 of a file, and have a share ratio of 1.50 . Then if you stop uploading, but continue downloading until .40, you will have a share ratio of .75 . If you decide to disagree for some crazy reason, please bring some kind of supporting evidence. But I'm not surprised to hear this, I expect this sort of non-sense logic from someone intending to switch to MacOS. (haha, just kidding, had to say it, don't beat me up!) OK based on how I seed, since every time I have been on a file, I never have seeded a 1:1 ratio with a partial file. I suppose it happens, but never to me. I always upload and download complete copies.
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