said by fivetimeparent :

Dear lady,

After reading your posts over and over again, It looks like you are the one having problems with sex and porn - not your children/daughter. Although personally I do admire parents wanting the best for their offspring and in principal that does include you: please consider professional counceling on this subject. You would do both yourself as well as your children/daughter a tremendous favor.

I sincerely do hope and wish with good help all ends well.

said by Steve :

I understand the problem perfectly well.

I believe that keeping kids from harmful images is a fine idea. Schools need to do some level of filtering so that education is not a porn-filled day, but I don't take the position that seeing the occasional two people gettin' it on is really all that damaging for a teenager.

There is also only so much that one can do in a large school of 2,000 kids to keep them from doing things they should not, and overreacting to images of naked people sends the message to kids that adults have a poor sense of perspective when it comes to what's important and what's not.

It's in the same class as this "zero-tolerance" nonsense regarding drugs: it's a dangerous message to give children.

But you've said that if parents raised their kids right, the kids would not want porn in the first place, and I think this reflects upon your understanding of adolescents, and in that manner casts a pall over the rest of your assessment of the issue.

If you want to pretend you didn't say that, well, I guess that's your prerogative.

Steve

said by heels_fan :

If that is the case Jazzy, do not inject your personal feelings about pornography!!

said by Mele20 :

I suppose none of you in this thread have ever once thought about the exploitation of those that are engaged in the porn acts that you feel you and your children have a right to view. Most of you have argued that it is normal to want to look at porn and it should be allowed because sex is a normal part of life. How normal is it to want to look at the degradation and exploitation of others? Why would you not advise your children against this? You wish to teach your children that it an acceptable, widespread practice in this country to participate, in any way, in the exploitation of others...women in particular?

It seems obvious to me that most of you wish to pretend that those you view on the porn sites are all adults and no one is is being exploited. I have known many involved in the porn industry...been there ...done that. Not one person, including myself at that point in my life, had the slightest self respect or ability to stop the exploitation. This is the real issue. Anyone, child or adult, who looks at porn, other than by accident or a brief moment of curiosity which immediately becomes disgust, is saying that they believe it is morally acceptable to exploit, in the most damaging way, other human beings. In fact, it is probably less morally damaging to look at pictures of starving people as you feel sorrow and a desire to help them. You look at porn and you feel sexual desire and no feelings of desire to help the exploited person(s). In fact, it doesn't even occur to you that they are exploited and that by allowing your children to see this blatant exploitation in the basest of ways that you are telling your children that adults feel exploiting others is the proper way to conduct your life. Porn is about exploitation not about sex.

said by Pake :

Do you think this way every time you see a movie? Watching the news? Learn about the recent Hollywood gossip? It's all exploitation to some degree or another. We exploit people every day, be it movie stars to singers to coworkers. All we're doing is going from sexual desire to entertainment desire or monetary desire. ...

said by Blackbird :

You clearly have no conception how the sex industry works in far too many situations and what the real consequences are for many, if not most, of the real-world, "ordinary" participants. Most of them never end up in the glamor of Hollywood or Playboy... or marrying some rich "John". A great many end up dying young, either from STDs, drugs, or violence - all too often associated with the ever worsening perversions and warpage they are pressed into.

"Exploitation" is simply defined as taking unfair advantage. And many of the young people involved in the ugliest aspects of the business have not gotten into it with any accurate grasp of where it usually leads or what it always costs. They are truly being exploited, purely for the lucrative financial benefit of their handlers, controllers, pimps, producers, or whomever. And way too often, once in, there is little or no way out. Organized crime is frequently a big part of these scenes. Please seek out and talk to those in society who pick up the inevitable broken pieces: the counsellors, the law enforcement officials, the homicide detectives, the first-responders, the court officials, the emergency-room workers, the social workers, the bereaved families and friends - and the list goes on and on. I have had to help pick up some of those pieces... and it isn't pleasant. It tears your heart out. And it makes you very angry. Both at the sex-lords and at the customers.

For some curious reason, we get more righteously incensed about the labor exploitation of teens in a 3rd world garment factory than we do about the same kind of young people (and 18+ is still young!) being literally sucked dry of their very lives in the exploitive sex industry - of which pornography is an integral part.

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