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cableties
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join:2005-01-27

Ripe for picking...

I think Verizon could buy up Vonage and offer their own VoIP or sit on it. Then go after Comcast and others...jsut a matter of time...

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

If it is true and Verizon does go after Comcast, you will see a MAJOR fight. Comcast having to play by extremely restrictive rules on cable TV deployment and then losing their phone product would make Brian Roberts have a stroke.



ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA

CATV regulations don't apply to their telephony or data services.



Netro

join:2001-12-30
Lewisville, TX

reply to cableties
Verizon has a VOIP service now...it's called VoiceWing. »www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/VO···ome.aspx



T1 Rocky

join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX

reply to moonpuppy

said by moonpuppy:

If it is true and Verizon does go after Comcast, you will see a MAJOR fight. Comcast having to play by extremely restrictive rules on cable TV deployment and then losing their phone product would make Brian Roberts have a stroke.
Not a fight. A slaughter. Comcast has no chance against a telco. When was the last time that AT&T or Verizon lost a ruling? Never. Comcast spent roughly $20,000,000 in lobbying since 1998. »www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/cl···ear=2006
Verizon put in over $70,000,000 in the same time frame.
»www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/cl···ear=2006

Verizon and AT&T have been winning crazy rulings for years including merging 13 companies back down to three and selling long distance.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to ColorBASIC

said by ColorBASIC:

CATV regulations don't apply to their telephony or data services.
Are you not with the subject?

Comcast wanted to deploy telephone type service. They did. Now, Verizon, emboldened with the Vonage decision, could decide to go after Comcast, Time Warner and any other outfit that provides VOIP or similar service. The only reason I even mentioned CATV rules was the constant argument from the cable companies about them having to sign franchise agreements that the telcos are not bound to.


ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA

Huh? Telco telephony service are regulated by tariffs. Telcos can't even raise telephony prices without regulatory approval of state PUCs.

Telephony and video services are apples and oranges when it comes to regulation.


moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

Take off the blinders for just a minute here.

Comcast and many others are trying to enter the phone market where they have very little regulation compared to POTS. Telcos are trying to circumvent the rules many cable TV companies had to follow when they first deployed.

Verizon winning this battle against Vonage could make it much tougher for the cable companies to make money on telephone service which used to be the main revenue stream of the telcos. There are many companies, other than the telco, that don't follow the same regulations as the telcos selling the same service.

Verizon is now using the courts to get rid of competition after losing regulatory battles to make VOIP providers play by the same rules as POTS.



ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA

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No blinders, you're under the assumption that cable telephony is as unregulated as a provider like Vonage. That certainly isn't the case here in California. Either forced or by choice, cable telephony is tariffed (regulated by the California PUC) here; at least my provider Time Warner Cable is including their pricing schedule. My understanding is the same applies (applied) to local Comcast and Cox cable systems here.

»www.timewarnercable.com/MediaLib···_TWC.pdf

So in terms of telephony services, telcos and cable take a similar regulatory beating that providers like Vonage and Viatalk don't; again, at least here in California. Other state may (and probably do) vary.

However I'm also not familiar with the technology local cable providers use for telephony here, especially Cox who has been offering telephony here in Southern California for I'm guessing 6+ years. It may not be VoIP at all in which case I'm talking out my ass as I usually do.


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