 mb
join:2000-07-23
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| Interesting! Interesting, if Vonage has no workaround, it can be inferred that one does not exist. One would then assume that other providers aren't utilizing such non-existent technology and consequently, are in the same position as Vonage.
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 NowVOIPIn the beginning there was POTS
join:2006-03-05
Round Lake, IL | I wouldn't go as far as to say one doesn't exist. I think you are inferring too much from this statement. It could be that Vonage, given its poor financial health anyhow, doesn't have the money to restructure its whole network to work with any work around.
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 LilYodaFeline with squirel personality disorderPremium
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Mountains | Actually, if you read the patents, you'll see that they are extremely broad.
It's so wide that it almost covers the way you would do any IP Telephony implementation? They did not patent a technology, a software or hardware, but just the "concept" of passing a phone call from an IP world to a PSTN one through a gateway.
If you go down that road, all IPT implementations have Voice gateways (developped over an open source platform like asterisk, or a professional pstn gateway like Avaya media gateways or Cisco routers with E1/T1 cards) and could be targeted by Verizon's patents.
To me, this patent should have never been allowed to go through. There is no innovation behind it (since I'm almost sure Cisco and Avaya did this before verizon). To me, this patent was written purposely wide open, to be used in legal warfare against competitors.
But that's just my view of it, read the patents and make up your mind on them...
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No it's just that Vonage took the quick way to market to make money on a game they knew would have an end.
Why innovate when you can take someone else's ideas and use them as your own. |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Are we talking about Verizon or Vonage?
Vonage hardly "took someone else's ideas". Verizon's overly broad patent will eventually be shot down. The question is weather it happens before or after Vonage ceases to exist. This is par for the course for the industry. |
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Net2Phone, TellLabs, others... must have some patent roots here that if everybody got on the same high horse as VZ then the whole blooming business would log jam.
I think Net2Phone, who has some fundamental patents, ought to get a consortium of the VOIP players together and reverse the pain onto VZ with a well funded patent play against them. |
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It's simple...it seems at this point the courts think that Vonage took verisons ideas....and considering that's killing Vonage right now...that's all that matters.
As for it being shot down...if it kills the company, it doesn't matter...but ask GLobalNAPS if they won or lost bascially the same termination issues? They lost. People think Verizon was hanging around waiting...they were not they were in active litigation with GlobalNAPS, once they won that...they IMMEDIATELY went after Vonage. |
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