sharpy merc
join:2003-01-28
England
| reply to Buddel
Re: Latest Comodo BoClean Information
said by Buddel  :YAWN! Where is the padlock? As a BOC fanboi. even I agree with the above, this thread gone boring. |
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NICK ADSL UK
Premium,MVM
join:2004-02-22
3 edits | reply to MADx
It's now available through major geeks via there software section
»www.majorgeeks.com/Comodo_BOClea···616.html |
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bellgamin
Kachunga
Premium
join:2003-01-12
Ewa Beach, HI
| reply to NICK ADSL UK
Re: Latest Comodo BoClean Information
Kevin is a security protection genius -- one of the original gurus. Problem is, he has been buried by the need to work solo in dealing with developing sigs for all the new malware that comes out daily. Kasperski, Symantec, et al, all have multiple analysts to handle the load. For whatever reason, Kevin has been on his own.
BOClean was a work of genius in its day. PERHAPS that day is nearly at sunset, but the brilliant mind behind its creation is still there.
Now that Kevin is free-at-last from the drudgery of doing sig development, he will finally have the time to put his immense talents to work on innovating new & better ways to deal with the fact that the out-moded "blacklist-approach" is being buried by the burgeoning amount & sophistication of new malware, the morphing, & the resultant bloating of security programs that are sig-based.
Nowadays I mainly rely on HIPS & ShadowSurfer, but I still use BOC as a highly valued extra-security-layer. I fully expect BOC 5 (or whatever they decide to name it) to totally blow everybody's mind when it comes out. |
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mers2
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USA
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I've got to say, dadkins , you've gotten a lot of answers that you just didn't want to hear. You have had your mind made up for along time and there is no changing it - no matter what is said or done. It's one of your good points and one of your bad points all at the same time.  I do love ya though.
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CajunTek
Insane Cajun
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join:2003-08-08
Arlington, TX
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| said by mers2 :I've got to say, dadkins , you've gotten a lot of answers that you just didn't want to hear. You have had your mind made up for along time and there is no changing it - no matter what is said or done. It's one of your good points and one of your bad points all at the same time. I do love ya though. Exactly... dadkins is wrong here (because I'm right  ) and we disagree... but he has every right to continue being wrong... Unless of course he's right.. then we are all going to be really embarassed... 
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI | It's not up to Kevin...it's Melih and look what he has already gone and done and then tried to save face in the Comodo forum with a lame excuse. I give Kevin six months tops at Comodo. |
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tempnexus
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join:1999-08-11
Boston, MA
| said by Mele20 :It's not up to Kevin...it's Melih and look what he has already gone and done and then tried to save face in the Comodo forum with a lame excuse. I give Kevin six months tops at Comodo. Sorry, I am not really following the COMODO forum since I have no real interest in COMODO besides Boclean (although I did post a question there regarding the ability to update BOC 4.22). What has happened besides the cosmetic changes? |
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tmaertin
Crash Into Me
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join:2002-04-03
North Tonawanda, NY
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4 edits | reply to MADx
found this in the BOClean forum on the Comodo website on page 13 - posted by Melih of Comodo fame...a link to download 4.23 directly from comodo (3rd post from the bottom). sorry i could not link the .exe directly but i found that is against forum rules
»forums.comodo.com/index.php/topi···150.html
i checked the link to the author site on majorgeeks.com (posted above) and it links to the same download site. i also registered and received my confirmation # from Comodo.
i downloaded and am testing 4.23 now and yes, it was free. regarding all the above posts - since its free - just try it and see! i have never used it but have heard many great things. maybe it will work for me - maybe it will not.
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Mats
Here kitty and the chimp. Smash
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join:2002-03-16
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said by mers2 :I've got to say, dadkins , you've gotten a lot of answers that you just didn't want to hear. What answers did he get that he didnt want to hear?? Show just one of them..
Nobody could answer his question is more like it. He is right about everything he said about BOC. |
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mers2
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| Read any of Kevin's responses, or Name Game 's, or a number of other users. The answers were there. I'm not going to take the time to go through and point them out to you. Specific questions were asked and answered.
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Name Game
Premium
join:2002-07-07
North Myrtle Beach, SC
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said by Mats :said by mers2 :I've got to say, dadkins , you've gotten a lot of answers that you just didn't want to hear. What answers did he get that he didnt want to hear?? Show just one of them.. Nobody could answer his question is more like it. He is right about everything he said about BOC. He found out BOClean works with Vista but not Dadkins.
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Mats
Here kitty and the chimp. Smash
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join:2002-03-16 | reply to mers2
Good response..
And he didnt want to hear those answers?? Why, did they prove him wrong?? No, not at all..
By Dadkins response, his question wasnt answered.. It's so nice that you think they were though.. |
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Mele20
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join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
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said by tempnexus :said by Mele20 :It's not up to Kevin...it's Melih and look what he has already gone and done and then tried to save face in the Comodo forum with a lame excuse. I give Kevin six months tops at Comodo. Sorry, I am not really following the COMODO forum since I have no real interest in COMODO besides Boclean (although I did post a question there regarding the ability to update BOC 4.22). What has happened besides the cosmetic changes? There is a BoClean forum at Comodo...you might want to keep up there if you are interested in BoClean.
Melih went and released BoClean without bothering to even tell Kevin he was doing so much less get Kevin's permission. Because it was premature and Kevin had no idea what Melih was doing there was no read me, etc and a bunch of complaints. Those who had purchased BoClean when Kevin and Nancy owned it were left out in the cold without their special version that Kevin promised. They were hurt.
Melih then tried to save face by concocting the notion that he had not released Comodo BoClean but that he had...yeah...without Kevin's knowledge or permission ....(but's what the big deal there...I'm the boss...I can do as I please and treat my employees like shit if I want) had released "only" a Release Candidate. Yeah, really....
I haven't read the Comodo forum today so I don't know the latest, but these kinds of shenanigans on the part of Melih I believe are likely partly why he he has difficulty attracting or keeping excellent employees. Maybe everything will still end up working out great...but I sure have my doubts.
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Name Game
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join:2002-07-07
North Myrtle Beach, SC
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LOL Mele20 you put more spin on stuff than the Hollywood gossip column..when you're not sure.. just make things up. 
Please keep us informed.
»gladiator-antivirus.com/forum/in···3823&hl=
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Kiwi
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join:2003-05-26
USA
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| I don't care much for any other thread reality, It's better to divulge the number of incidents and results; from a product. It's not hard to strip down. The politics, I don't care for.
On the whole over time I have felt comfortable with BoClean, but I see several areas that the product is weak in. Does it matter, not to most people, I guess.
If anything I'm kinda miffed that BC has not answered to some serious issues related to Trojan_LIKE activity. But that's just me! |
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munckman
join:2003-07-08
| reply to dadkins
I have limited computer skills and for some unknown reason to me, I do get calls to fix them for free. More times than not, the first time I am asked to lend a hand, they have an expired AntiVirus that is still active. This is usually the only protection that is present and they brag about the fact they have an AV and ran a scan, as they should.
I set them up with one of the top 2 AV's (usually free versions) depending on how I perceive their ability to deal with updating and scanning. To some this may seem silly but to me it is an important consideration.
To ask them to run a AntiMalware Scanner is easy. I just wonder why I get calls asking "what should be done." I installed the scanner that I thought is best for them. I tell them to just follow the prompts for anything that is detected.
Many also get the usual passive protections but some object because they are informed of everything that I do and possible ramifications. If they express that they don't need anything else, they are of course right.
Firewalls are kinda tough to explain but if they don't install things often, I just install my favorite free one and run through their installed programs (usually not many) and have them watch the process. Just in case you wondered; yes I read the prompts out loud to them. Firewalls are a no win situation for me. Some do understand though!
So, if I installed BoClean on "these" systems, set with no prompts to delete and save deletes and with the owners' permission to do so will I get less repeat phone calls stating that "my computer is really slow?"
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Name Game
Premium
join:2002-07-07
North Myrtle Beach, SC
| said by munckman :I have limited computer skills and for some unknown reason to me, I do get calls to fix them for free. More times than not, the first time I am asked to lend a hand, they have an expired AntiVirus that is still active. This is usually the only protection that is present and they brag about the fact they have an AV and ran a scan, as they should. Thanks You will not necessarily get less calls since BOClean also has to be kept updated and there are many thing these days that can cause "slow down"
If those Free AV you have installed have real time protection and you have locked down the browsers and updated the OS and other applications that are Microsoft products.. including all the hotfixes..then who ever uses the PC has a better chance of survival since most now are running WinXP SP2 that now by default have a firewall installed and running as well as limited user when they hit the internet.
I mention all those things..since I know how long it really takes to do all those things and even update the java.
Even paid tech do not do all of that..since time is money..but once you do Patch vulnerabilities..then would not even matter if the AV missed it.
The name of the game out there today for the badboys is to EXPLOIT exiting vulnerabilities in the OS or other applications your friends are running...so no amount of AV's ..free or paid is really the answer if you have not plugged the holes in the first place..since tomorrow there will be a new vector trying to exploit that same vulnerability..just in a different way the AV can not stop.
Take all that into consideration and you will get less repeat phone calls.
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buttoni
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join:2005-08-16
Temple, TX
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| reply to MADx
I'm contemplating installing BOClean 4.23 and am in the process of reading what on-line info is available at nsclean.com. I'm running a 512K ram, WinXP machine with only what appears in my signature realtime.
My question: Are there any members here running BOClean & CounterSpy 2.0 concurrently? Would like some feedback on BOClean compatibility with CS 2.0's heavy-duty realtime agents? The latest CS release moved a lot of it's listed 30+ realtime agents to the kernel level (greatly improving performance). As the kernel level of the OS is waaaaay out of my league of computer knowledge, thought I'd ask members who may have had problems running the two programs. I would like to add the layer of protection BOC can provide, but as I've never experienced a BSOD, I don't want to find out what that's like! LOL
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Rocky67
Pencil Neck Geek
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join:2005-01-13
Orange, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| I'm trying BOC 4.23 on an XP Pro SP2 system that also has CS 2.1.917 installed and haven't had any problems. Installation was smooth - CS asked me to OK new startup program and I had to make some changes to firewall rules to accomodate BOC and that was it.
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