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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

vonage stepped in poo

Vonage actively sought Verizon POTS customers.. that's a NO-NO in chapter 1 of Verizon's playbook. Voicewing VOIP patents cannot and will not hold hostage an ENTIRE VOIP INDUSTRY. At some point there will be a limit (certain jurisdictions) on how far Verizon can go to enforce patents/royalties to bring the 3rd party providers to their knees. I'm not a lawyer, but common sense reigns here.

I cannot foresee a day (right now) where CABLE VOIP and Telcos VOIP/POTS are the ONLY two alternatives. Still, if Verizon wants to play hardball.. there's always WIRELESS VOIP/DATA/Walkie-talkie service where Verizon could get trampled on if a bunch of VOIP companies are at risk of becoming endangered species (the enemy of my enemy is my friend). Wireless is still an area with HUGE investment where Verizon is still vulnerable, so I think they'll just focus on hurting the BIGGEST competitive threats as needed [aka vonage].

****And this anti-competitive NONSENSE has a funny way of steering FTTP deployment money... Grrr!


questionerrrr

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  Ok, so whats going to happen to my phone number on Vonage if they are shut down?

I also have a second number using Voicepulse, but they for some reason in NYC do not accept number transfers.... so what do I do!?!?

I'm only asking as a pre-caution.

Thank you.


AnonProxy
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Your vonage number SHOULD be transportable to a LEC, although if all the product of the suit is deemed part of the infringement (customer lists, names, numbers, etc) you will have very little of anything.

JohnA
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join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA

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Voicewing VOIP patents cannot and will not hold hostage an ENTIRE VOIP INDUSTRY.
Do some research. Voicewing is a resold service. It's not a Verizon creation.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

YOU do some research.. only PART of it is resold (through 3rd party companies). Verizon Offers VoiceWing Over FIOS making it a verizon product. Albeit not a product they're pushing down anyone's throat, as it is not as profitable as their others. If Verizon resold another's service over FIOS, they would not have gotten a MONOPOLY to bar others from doing the same. There can't be a distinction here between companies that compose Verizon (more then 20, these days) and the VOIP unit/relationship(s).

JohnA
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join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA

said by tmc8080 See Profile :

YOU do some research.. only PART of it is resold (through 3rd party companies). Verizon Offers VoiceWing Over FIOS making it a verizon product. Albeit not a product they're pushing down anyone's throat, as it is not as profitable as their others. If Verizon resold another's service over FIOS, they would not have gotten a MONOPOLY to bar others from doing the same. There can't be a distinction here between companies that compose Verizon (more then 20, these days) and the VOIP unit/relationship(s).
I have no idea what that says.

Try not to get lost, here. Voicewing is another company's product rebranded as Voicewing, sold by Verizon. They don't push it, or bundle it, because they can't discount it, since they just get the reseller fees.
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