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umm, define univeral.

If it's TRULY universal, then sure, I would support subsidies. But only if it's classified as a utility, and provided to every homeowner that wants it, at a reasonable price. Otherwise, this is just pork spending for the megacorps.
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Re: umm, define univeral.

said by karlmarx See Profile :

Otherwise, this is just pork spending for the megacorps.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megacorps

Note all the megacorps are fictional.
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Re: umm, define univeral.

Terrible, incredibly subjective cite. Even Wikipedia says so at the top. Much more of a bromide than a Wikipedia entry.

Consider: If General Electric isn't as fine an example of a "megacorp" as has ever existed, I'll defecate in my hat and wear it. And there are many others.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by karlmarx See Profile :

Otherwise, this is just pork spending for the megacorps.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megacorps

Note all the megacorps are fictional.
What about GE?
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said by karlmarx See Profile :

If it's TRULY universal, then sure, I would support subsidies.
I don't want to subsidise anybodies porn.
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said by karlmarx See Profile :

If it's TRULY universal, then sure, I would support subsidies. But only if it's classified as a utility, and provided to every homeowner that wants it, at a reasonable price. Otherwise, this is just pork spending for the megacorps.
of course you would advocate another new series of wealth redistributions in the form of subsidies... what more should people around here expect from you other than the fact that you hate commerce and worship government intervention into the lives of it's citizens at nearly every level... in other words, when will you stop being a boy and grow into a man...?

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Re: umm, define univeral.

Well commerce has left large chunks of the population unserved. Many of those unserved, pay rates to cablecos and or telcos for other services which helped fund the rollout of broadband to those, like yourself, who were lucky enough to be served. You didn't pay all the costs of broadband rollout to yourself. Your broadband rollout was funded by profits from rates paid by other customers. Granted this isn't a government subsidy but it isn't you paying your own way either. If others aren't going to get the same opportunities you had then maybe you could understand why they might feel cheated, especially after many of them helped pay for broadband rollout to people who, now that they have theirs, tell those who have been left out to piss off and die.
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Re: umm, define univeral.

Great argument.

I like to call it the post office or fritos argument.

The price of a letter is averaged (arguably subject to competitive pressures). The average jane pays their 39 cent regardless of location and length to deliver.

Fritos. Wherever I go, a bag of Fritos seems to cost the same. The cost of delivering them certainly is not the same.

Telcom and cable differ, to an extent, due to regulatory constructs. The difference between the former two and the latter two is the "line iteming" of "pass throughs". It sure would be nice if I could send my letters locally for 15 cent and see a fee of 24 cent "federally mandated rural delivery
costs".

Then again, if I were the postmaster, I'd get into this action as well.

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said by xsiddalx See Profile :

Great argument.

That is the Teletruth B.S. argument. If you think your USF subsidised POTS line in your hog pen is paying the $1500 pre home to run FIOS past it you have lost touch with reality.
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