bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| I was on the road in a sales position and
back then the only way for me to get email etc was to freeload of unprotected wireless connections. You would be shocked at the number of these available. Sometimes in shopping centers I could get 3 or 4 unsecured connections from stores that probably had credit card numbers on file. Drive a half a block up any residential street anywhere and find 2 or 3 to choose from.
The average person has no idea about PC security, wireless or otherwise. My son in law leaves his wireless router unsecured so that when his friends are over there is no hassle with them connecting. |
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weedahoe
join:2003-09-14
Duluth, GA
| Agreed, I blame both parties but more to the access point side because they knew what he was doing and did nothing (assumingly) to secure thier network. Of coarse strange and unknown people will come into your house if you leave your doors and windows open. |
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Goober
Premium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
 ·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| said by weedahoe  :Agreed, I blame both parties but more to the access point side because they knew what he was doing and did nothing (assumingly) to secure thier network. Of coarse strange and unknown people will come into your house if you leave your doors and windows open. Still doesn't make it legal. |
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ROCINANTE 2112
Original Member 007
join:1999-06-29
Hartsdale, NY
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Bad analogy. Why do people keep using it to compare with unsecured access to a network?
Volumes of criminal laws and torts exist for real property and specifically a residence. You cannot enter a residence just because it was unsecured. There is no implied invitation even if it is unsecured. Try blaming the homeowner in front of a judge and observe how he laughs at you while he increases your sentence for stupidity.
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lrtc
join:2004-06-05
Toronto | Is there a law that deals with wireless signal theft for this situation? Or is this a matter of morals. This is an endless debate, just like the morality of download etc. It's not illegal if you don't get caught :P |
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garyprud
join:2005-07-09
Prospect, KY | reply to ROCINANTE 2112
Last I heard - the airwaves are still public domain. broadcasts there are still free to anyone who wants to purchase or make a receiver to pick up signals. Quitcher bitchin. |
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Iridium
Premium
join:2003-04-02
Los Angeles, CA
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to ROCINANTE 2112
said by ROCINANTE 2112 :Bad analogy. Why do people keep using it to compare with unsecured access to a network? Volumes of criminal laws and torts exist for real property and specifically a residence. You cannot enter a residence just because it was unsecured. There is no implied invitation even if it is unsecured. Try blaming the homeowner in front of a judge and observe how he laughs at you while he increases your sentence for stupidity. You are not supposed to enter, but people do it every day. So why not even give people the opportunity to come on in. It would be nice to leave your door open, but stupid to do so. Ignorance of wireless security is not an excuse.
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DataDoc
My avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.
Premium
join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC
·Suddenlink
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said by garyprud :Last I heard - the airwaves are still public domain. broadcasts there are still free to anyone who wants to purchase or make a receiver to pick up signals. Quitcher bitchin. Nonsense. It's not the receiving that is the problem, it's transmitting back and using someone's resources without permission. And it's not the quantity, it's the act.
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La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
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join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
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·Optimum Online
 ·Vonage
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said by garyprud :Last I heard - the airwaves are still public domain. broadcasts there are still free to anyone who wants to purchase or make a receiver to pick up signals. Quitcher bitchin. "Airwaves"? LOL....
Tell that to the ISP when you get charged with theft of service, which IS illegal.
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