 MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Sue for weak security I think if a system can be demonstrated to be hackable, then the people who designed the system need to recognise their fallibility and go back to the drawing board. Demonstrating a weakness in security should not, within itself, be a crime. If someone points out the locks on my door can be picked, or a window on my house can be easily opened, but he doesn't actually break in, should (s)he go to jail for showing the weakness in my home security? -- "Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter
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 ROCINANTEOriginal Member 007Premium join:1999-06-29 Hartsdale, NY | reply to Maxo More invalid analogies, but we should switch the focus to anyone's house rather than just your house. He could be charged with at least trespassing if he was not granted permission to attempt to pick the locks. This can escalate to criminal mischief if he damages your locks or window and that would lead to attempted burglary. He does not have to break in to be arrested. It would be difficult for him to prove his intentions since he did not ask for permission in the first place. -- CRUNCH THIS! |
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 MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | Considering the modem was at his house. If he damaged the modem I could see him being charged for the cost of modem, just like anyone else who damages the ISPs equipment. I think my analogy stands. Like the guy who was arrested because he discovered the black marker on the CD would bypass the DRM, or holding down the shift key or turning off autorun. This is bypassing weak security but being charged like a criminal just because it was so damn easy. -- "Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter
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 jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | reply to Maxo Wow, what a leap of logic....
(Except that we're not talking about criminal prosecution here, -- HE JUST GOT HIS INTERNET SERVICE SHUT OFF!!!) |
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 MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | said by jester121:HE JUST GOT HIS INTERNET SERVICE SHUT OFF On that note, I do stand corrected. There was not any criminal prosecution. |
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 Ahrenl join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA | Although in the states it would have been illegal under the DMCA{? correct acronym}. I believe attempting to break into anything that has been secured is criminal. Regardless if the security is a piece of kite string holding a door half closed. |
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 MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | I would agree breaking into physical locations should be criminal. I don't agree that breaking into your own personal property, like cracking the DRM on a CD/DVD you purchased, should be criminal. |
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 JammerMan79Premium,VIP join:2004-05-13 Prince George, BC kudos:10 | reply to Maxo Wrong... he should sue for breach of contract on the companies part...
"You are responsible for ensuring that any member ID and/or password selected by you remain confidential so that the network cannot be used by any unauthorised person. "
Wasn't this a password selected by the company? -- I may work for, but do not necessarily represent the views and beliefs of TELUS Communications. |
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