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Re: They've patented customer DBs too

It's a matter of perspective. Rambus certainly did something that wasn't on the up and up in regards to the consortium relationship. It's not to say that they didn't/don't innovate.

I was a new engineer in Geoff Tate's organization at AMD back in 1989. He left briefly afterwards for what eventually became Rambus. But, I recall that he was an incredibly smart and savvy individual. The youngest EVP ever at AMD, if I recall correctly. So I agree that he and the organization are innovators. But, I also believe that Rambus got greedy and tried to freeze out the consortium members once Rambus realized that they had something good.

I'm involved and have been involved for many years in lots of standards based patenting activity and none of them have ever ended up the way Rambus did. I think that's very telling.


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I appreciate that, however, I find it more telling that The FTC is backpedaling and allowing them to collect Retro-Royalites from the few companies that have not been paying and are allowed to collect going forward on everything from SDRam forward. There is something wrong with having innovated, put everyone on notice that you intend to protect your innovations, watch those innovations merged into some industry standard via a consortium that you are invited to but denied the motion to present at, while everyone you have taught how to do what to do is incorporating your NDA protected Technology into an Industry standard.

That being said, I think this VoIP patent case is a bit different.

Thanks for the Comments Goober! Always nice to speak with someone that is familiar with what the issues and timeframes were.


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I agree. It certainly is interesting that Rambus has been vidicated to a certain extent. I'm still not sure, though, what may have happened in the consortium.

If nothing else, events like the Rambus matter only enforce the notion that agreements between the parties and members of a consortium need to be really well though out and air-tight.

Isn't it amazing, though, how repercussions from certain actions just ripple over such a long time.


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Agreed. The Rules must be set out plain and clear beforehand. More than Amazing though.... Justice Delayed is Justice Denied. Justice will one day be served and I will be made whole and gain my sanity back. What a story indeed. Just like this VoIP patent story will be someday.
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