phiber
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And then we wonder why the divorce rate is so high compared to 50 years ago... why rape, molestation, and child abuse has sky rocketed, why family values are no longer talked about at the family table, why long and meaningful commitments have been traded for quick, cheap fixes that do not carry any risks...why more than a million abortions occur each year in America
I don't understand why so many are against protecting children from the negative consequences and addictiveness of pornography, speaking as if though porn has fantastic and positive repercussions on our generation! Wake up people and open up your eyes. |
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Karl Bode
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I don't understand why so many are against protecting children from the negative consequences and addictiveness of pornography, speaking as if though porn has fantastic and positive repercussions on our generation!
If you've got children, that's your job. It came with the decision of having sex and creating life. |
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manfmmd
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It took this topic to bring you out from "lurking" status? 
You are correct about everything is your first paragraph. I would add that another cause for the increase in divorce is that women have generally become less dependent on their husbands to provide for them.
If women don't have to put up with that crap at home, why should they? More power to 'em.
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Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL | reply to phiber
Well lets get rid of coffee while your at it cause that's also addictive. |
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manfmmd
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said by Karl Bode  : quote:
I don't understand why so many are against protecting children from the negative consequences and addictiveness of pornography, speaking as if though porn has fantastic and positive repercussions on our generation!
If you've got children, that's your job. It came with the decision of having sex and creating life. That's part of the problem, with more and more mothers working and not staying home with the kid(s) (with the father working too), there is not the level of supervision that was available 20-50 years ago. The availability of porn is much higher now as well. I think any tool that can be made readily available, should be utilized as we (parents) cannot be there 100% of the time. Public places like Internet Cafe's and Library's should be able to easily filter their traffic...
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ggarcia
join:2002-10-21
La Porte, TX | reply to Stumbles
LOL, I see it now. Oh honey. I'm so sorry. I promise i wont do it anymore. This is my last coffee.
Get real. Comparing porn to coffee is like comparing apples and oranges. |
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DMWCincy
join:2004-04-27
Fairfield, OH
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said by Karl Bode : If you've got children, that's your job. It came with the decision of having sex and creating life. I have to agree. Let the parents decide what their kids can and can not do. I don't want my kids to watch porno so I lock down the computer, I use the paretial controls on the TV and I monitor what my kids do. Why do I need the government or private company telling me how to parent? |
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sivran
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Morality does not, cannot come from legislation, or force of any kind. |
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Krusty1001
join:2000-08-20
Los Angeles, CA | reply to phiber
And all of these horrible things are caused by pornography? Who knew?! "I didn't want to get that abortion, but after watching some porn, I just couldn't help myself!" |
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Titus Pullo
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And all the evils you mention are directly tied to pornography, right? No middle ground here because porn is the causation of all these social ills, eh?
Just curious, has anyone ever accused you of being gullible?
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phiber
join:2005-02-03
Auburn, WA
| You are correct. It plays a factor in a lot of these social ills, not necessarily the primary factor all of the time, but indeed a factor! And how is creating an .xxx domain forcing legislation? It does not block the content, but rather, it gives parents the ability to block it and protect their kids! |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | reply to DMWCincy
Hurray for good parenting.
I wonder how many of these people complaining let their kids have a PC in their bedroom? Or don't take the time to understand how the PC works in order to properly secure and monitor home PC use? |
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Squidii
join:2004-06-30
Little Rock, AR
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said by phiber :And then we wonder why the divorce rate is so high compared to 50 years ago... By your logic anything that is different now then 50 years ago could be blamed for your perception that our society is falling apart ( which it's not, your just a quack with a "THE END IS NEIGH" sign, just in case you didn't know ).
So list of things that are to blame for the breakdown of western culture:
Microwaves
Color TV
Satellite TV
Moon Visitation ( I like this one! It's Moon Virus! MOON VIRUS! )
Women Working
Black people gaining civil rights
Fuel Efficient smaller foreign cars
Less Fuel Efficient American cars on truck frames
cellphones
internet
Vietnam war
Moon VIRUS!
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Maxo
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said by phiber :why rape, molestation, and child abuse has sky rocketed, why family values are no longer talked about at the family table Do you have any research to back this up? Do you have any research showing that exposure to pornography significantly increases any of these factors?
Do you have any reason to believe that any of these proposed legislations will do anything to reduce a minors exposure to pornography.
Pornography has been around for thousands of years. It's not a new phenomenon.
As a parent I work every day to keep my kids from being exposed to harmful subject materiel. Pornography is hardly the worst thing out there I have to worry about. I spend more time worrying about how to keep my kids from being caught in the overconsumption, McKid mentality. This is a much more harmful battle that needs to be fought more vigorously.
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As a rule, one sees what one wants to see. Generally speaking, one places one's own fears and beliefs into everyone else; it's called "projecting". What you fear in others is what you fear in yourself. What you believe you see in others is what you see in yourself. The people who blame some "addiction" to whatever are those who feel that addiction within themselves. They believe themselves to be "evil", therefore everyone else is.
These people don't see something natural and delivered from God as being good, but instead try to warp God's work into something evil. Just another case of the moral majority minority trying to impose their will on everyone else in order to validate their own lack of faith in God
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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| said by GlennAllen :As a rule, one sees what one wants to see. Generally speaking, one places one's own fears and beliefs into everyone else; it's called "projecting". What you fear in others is what you fear in yourself. What you believe you see in others is what you see in yourself. The people who blame some "addiction" to whatever are those who feel that addiction within themselves. They believe themselves to be "evil", therefore everyone else is. Maybe that's just the way you see yourself, so you project the idea that others project their own ideas on others, as a projection of your own ideas.
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scrummie02
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I think that's the first time I've ever agreed with anything you've posted. Well said.
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moonpuppy
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Wow, I don't even know where to start with this one.
said by phiber :And then we wonder why the divorce rate is so high compared to 50 years ago... why rape, molestation, and child abuse has sky rocketed, why family values are no longer talked about at the family table, why long and meaningful commitments have been traded for quick, cheap fixes that do not carry any risks...why more than a million abortions occur each year in America Divorce is up because it is easier to do it and it doesn't have the moral stigma it had years ago.
As for child abuse, it is much more prevalent now than before because standards have changed. Spanking your child was acceptable until idiots decided to go further and start chaining them up to beds and locking them in rooms. Add to that, the sexual abuse of kids is climbing because of a) kids and parents actually going to the police and b) molesters not going to jail for long periods of time for their first offence.
Abortions were illegal but now are legal so people don't have to do the back alley thing and will survive the procedure.
said by phiber :I don't understand why so many are against protecting children from the negative consequences and addictiveness of pornography, speaking as if though porn has fantastic and positive repercussions on our generation! Wake up people and open up your eyes. Problem is who is to say what measures should be taken? Who are you to say how I raise my child?
If you have a computer in the house, then it needs to be secured and in a place that the child can be monitored. Anything less and you have only yourself to blame. It's like leaving the car keys out where a teenager can pick them up and use the car without permission.
I do support libraries that want to do some filtering but they should be turned off for adults and kids should have a separate area for library internet access. |
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karlmarx
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How in the world can you consider 'protecting the children' to be more important that protecting our liberties. Millions of people have died protecting our rights, and any moron who proposes to take away those rights in order to 'protect' the children should themselves be lined up against the wall, and shot, to protect OUR rights.
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| said by karlmarx :How in the world can you consider 'protecting the children' to be more important that protecting our liberties. In general I choose to manually ignore your posts. But, where did I say anything about taking away anyone's liberties? I never suggested any legislation at all. |
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