manfmmd
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Re: Can't you see?
said by nixen  :Just because you couldn't control the fire in your loins enough to keep from squeezing out rugrats doesn't mean the rest of us should be held accountable for your absentee parenting. I hope you aren't referring to me... I take care of my kids and monitor their online activity, everything leaving my internet connection is logged and filtered.
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nixen
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said by Krusty1001 :And all of these horrible things are caused by pornography? Who knew?! "I didn't want to get that abortion, but after watching some porn, I just couldn't help myself!" They're both fruits and, if used correctly, can both be used to injure or kill.
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nixen
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said by manfmmd :said by nixen :Just because you couldn't control the fire in your loins enough to keep from squeezing out rugrats doesn't mean the rest of us should be held accountable for your absentee parenting. I hope you aren't referring to me... I take care of my kids and monitor their online activity, everything leaving my internet connection is logged and filtered. Yeah, once I posted that, I thought, "maybe I should have put 'the collective you' in parentheses".
/me shrugs
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patcat88
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Jamaica, NY | reply to manfmmd
Everything is big in Texas. |
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Thaler
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said by manfmmd :That's part of the problem, with more and more mothers working and not staying home with the kid(s) (with the father working too), there is not the level of supervision that was available 20-50 years ago. So, now it's the government's job to babysit children which parents planned to have without supervision? I mean...I thought being with the child was part of good parent planning, or did I miss something?
I can understand state-provided access spots like Librarys using filters, but what's wrong with an internet cafe offering unfiltered broadband? Most consumers there aren't looking for kiddy-blocks. |
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manfmmd
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| said by Thaler :said by manfmmd :That's part of the problem, with more and more mothers working and not staying home with the kid(s) (with the father working too), there is not the level of supervision that was available 20-50 years ago. So, now it's the government's job to babysit children which parents planned to have without supervision? I mean...I thought being with the child was part of good parent planning, or did I miss something? I can understand state-provided access spots like Librarys using filters, but what's wrong with an internet cafe offering unfiltered broadband? Most consumers there aren't looking for kiddy-blocks. When "kids" can go in and plop down cash to get internet access, it needs to be filtered. We don't allow them into theatres without ID on R-Rated movies...why should unfiltered internet be different? Show ID and you get unfiltered access, no ID, you get filtered.
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Thaler
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said by gateguy :It's all or nothing. Filter or no filter EVERYWHERE. You can't have it both ways. Bullcrap. If the internet is offered at your library, then it is for your business there at the library. They can chose to use whatever filters they want that they feel keeps users goal-orientated. For a free service, they aren't obligated to offer you an unfiltered internet. Either take your kid-friendly WiFi there, or go somewhere else to download your porn. |
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fireflier
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Here are several. Feel free to google your own if you prefer not to believe these sources.
»www.boston.com/news/globe/editor···_values/
»www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
»www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?A···ID=10961
»www.nytimes.com/2004/11/14/weeki···;ei=5090
»community-2.webtv.net/tales_of_t···BLEBELT/
»www.hvk.org/articles/0501/86.html
»utahmarriage.org/index.cfm?id=RECENT02
»www.adherents.com/largecom/bapti···rce.html
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guitarzan
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said by Dryvlyne :Unfortunately it is the higher income, educated couples of society, which tend to practice responsible parenting and get married (or at least stay committed to one another), that are losing the procreation battle. How do you explain Hollywood? Those actors and actresses, are in a higher income tax bracket. Plenty of them are married and divorced in a months time or less with the marriage annulled.
How many of these educated couples of society are on their 5th, 6th or more marriage? Responsible parenting? Not when their kids are busted for drug use or attending rehab for the uptheenth time. O-j was really committed wasn't he? How about Robert Blake? Mike Tyson, Kidd Rock? Bush's daughters, the Kennedy tribe? Alex Baldwin?
Lower income, undereducated kids look to the NFL, NBA, MLB players as role models, same goes for rappers and drugged out "rock stars". Naturally the press broadcasts every bad habit of these people, so the kids want to be just like their "heroes".
said by Dryvlyne :My question... what the hell ever happened to only the strong survive? Absolutely nothing. Are you an RIAA cheerleader?
My question... how the does it make a strong man weak by helping a fellow man out in his time of need or weakness, when the weaker man needs a strong helping hand to regain his strength?
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Michieru2
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What is this BS you speak of? |
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Desdinova
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"We don't allow them into theatres without ID on R-Rated movies"
We can if we want to. The ratings code is a guideline and carries no legal weight. The MPAA is a private organization and has no legal authority at all. A theatre can let a six year-old into an NC-17 movie if they wished. Sure, they'd be open to a lawsuit, but in our current litigious culture, they could also get sued by NOT letting the kid in (though I seriously doubt the latter suit would be won...). |
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Thaler
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said by manfmmd :When "kids" can go in and plop down cash to get internet access, it needs to be filtered. We don't allow them into theatres without ID on R-Rated movies...why should unfiltered internet be different? Show ID and you get unfiltered access, no ID, you get filtered. Most unfiltered internet cafes I've seen won't allow single children to use their stations, or require some kind of parental consent sign-off. Of course, that was a while back, and I haven't stepped into an internet cafe in a long while.
Put it this way, if I was paying a fee to access the internet, as an adult, I should be able to view it in all its glorious splendor. I probably won't, but I'm not paying money for a filter to tell me what I can and can't see. |
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manfmmd
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| I'm not saying that adults shouldn't be able to view whatever they want to view. I'm saying that we should be able to have tools available to us to allow for easy filtering of content that is or can be considered not appropriate for kids and that the parent be able to USE these tools. Not the ISP, not the Government. Me, the PARENT.
As technology grows and becomes more complicated we need to tools to be able to properly police our children's activities.
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GlennAllen
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Human nature. |
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Michieru2
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It is also human nature to understand and learn. Which is why we might hate something when we are young but love it when we are grown up as individuals.
Those who places one's own fears and beliefs into everyone else is simply trying to have everyone else confirm their judgement as the norm.
Normality is what you think of it, for us killing might be a sin, but for the Incas slicing someone's neck on top of the pyramid is an actual blessing.
Those who blame an addiction have probably experienced it themselves but thats not always the case, because as stated before the possibility of understanding and learning will not speak from fear or belief because they feel that addiction themselves, but because they seen the result of someone else's actions.
Earth could be a blessing and a hell whole no matter which way you look at it, those are just the two extremes.
P.S Christians where a minority back in the day and have imposed their will on everyone else in order to validate their own faith in God and has gone to extremes of running religiously ran crusades against those who where considered evil from their point of view.
Are we blind to face a reality, or do we simply choose to be blinded by our OWN reality.
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Squidii
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Re: Can't you see?
Moon Virus! |
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