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| reply to NetFixer Re: Nicholas Papadopoulos and updated.com
FYI:
Even if there were libelous statements, which I don't personally see in this case, the statute of limitations would have run out.
State of poster: Tennessee- 1 year »www.expertlaw.com/library/limita···see.html
State of complainant: Florida- 2 years »www.expertlaw.com/library/limita···ida.html
State of this website: New York: 1 year »www.expertlaw.com/library/limita···ork.html
Federal case in Texas: Libel limit applies to web postings
"..clock begins ticking when an article first appears on the Internet".
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| reply to N_P said by N_P :
I respect the fact that he apologized. I hope that the site management proposes a good solution.
Well in return if indeed Royce wants to do better I would in return make a good deed and would offer Royce a job if he can do some work to improve our server network setup. I would rather do that than have to hire an attorney over this matter. Royce are you interested? can we talk business instead of this?
I truly like to see something productive come out of all this and hope Royce agrees too. I had not intended to respond any further in this thread, but to leave it for you to explain your position in whatever manner you should choose.
However, since you appear to have indirectly asked me a question in your reply to La Luna , I will respond to that question. The answer is thanks for the job offer, but I don't think such a business relationship would work out. -- We can never have enough of nature. We need to witness our own limits transgressed, and some life pasturing freely where we never wander. Test your firewall. |
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For the person that asked (why and when? ) I just saw Royce's post yesterday and contacted him right away about it, he knows. |
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| reply to NetFixer said by NetFixer :I suspect that Nicholas Papadopoulos is a real person (or at least a real persona) based on the old whois data (which used to be much harder to mask or spoof), as well as the Caller ID in my Vonage call log. Nicholas is a real person. Using the whois address that was posted above, 101 20th Street #3401, the property owner comes back as ELENA PAPADOPOULOS.
Feel free to search yourself:
»gisims2.miamidade.gov/myhome/propmap.asp
Next, take that name over to the Miami-Dade County Clerk search page, and plug that name in last name, first name and you find Nicholas.
»www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-r···rch1.asp
Search with his name (last name, first name) and you can read some civil court papers regarding another slander/defamation case! -- "[Our enemies] never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." G.W. Bush (8/05/2004) |
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| reply to N_P I have a Question Mr.Papadopoulos
Why does your website with only one visit and page open to it make my router Nat table look like this
692 172.016.001.163:01859 038.119.096.103:00080 60824 00007 TCP 693 172.016.001.163:01861 038.119.096.103:00080 60825 00007 TCP 694 172.016.001.163:01863 038.119.096.103:00080 60826 00007 TCP 695 172.016.001.163:01865 038.119.096.103:00080 60827 00007 TCP 696 172.016.001.163:01867 038.119.096.103:00080 60828 00008 TCP 697 172.016.001.163:01870 038.119.096.103:00080 60829 00008 TCP 698 172.016.001.163:01871 038.119.096.103:00080 60830 00008 TCP 699 172.016.001.163:01875 038.119.096.103:00080 60831 00008 TCP 700 172.016.001.163:01876 038.119.096.103:00080 60832 00008 TCP 704 172.016.001.163:01884 038.119.096.103:00080 60836 00008 TCP 705 172.016.001.163:01886 038.119.096.103:00080 60837 00008 TCP 708 172.016.001.163:01892 038.119.096.103:00080 60840 00008 TCP 709 172.016.001.163:01894 038.119.096.103:00080 60841 00008 TCP 711 172.016.001.163:01855 038.119.096.124:00080 60822 00007 TCP 712 172.016.001.163:01900 038.119.096.103:00080 60844 00008 TCP 712 172.016.001.163:01858 038.119.096.124:00080 60823 00007 TCP 713 172.016.001.163:01902 038.119.096.103:00080 60845 00008 TCP 716 172.016.001.163:01908 038.119.096.103:00080 60848 00008 TCP 717 172.016.001.163:01910 038.119.096.103:00080 60849 00008 TCP 720 172.016.001.163:01916 038.119.096.103:00080 60852 00009 TCP 721 172.016.001.163:01918 038.119.096.103:00080 60853 00009 TCP 722 172.016.001.163:01920 038.119.096.103:00080 60854 00009 TCP 722 172.016.001.163:01879 038.119.096.124:00080 60833 00008 TCP 723 172.016.001.163:01922 038.119.096.103:00080 60855 00009 TCP 723 172.016.001.163:01880 038.119.096.124:00080 60834 00008 TCP 724 172.016.001.163:01924 038.119.096.103:00080 60856 00009 TCP 724 172.016.001.163:01882 038.119.096.124:00080 60835 00008 TCP 725 172.016.001.163:01926 038.119.096.103:00080 60857 00009 TCP 726 172.016.001.163:01928 038.119.096.103:00080 60858 00009 TCP 727 172.016.001.163:01930 038.119.096.103:00080 60859 00009 TCP 727 172.016.001.163:01890 038.119.096.124:00080 60838 00008 TCP 728 172.016.001.163:01932 038.119.096.103:00080 60860 00009 TCP 728 172.016.001.163:01889 038.119.096.124:00080 60839 00008 TCP 731 172.016.001.163:01896 038.119.096.124:00080 60842 00008 TCP 732 172.016.001.163:01898 038.119.096.124:00080 60843 00008 TCP 735 172.016.001.163:01904 038.119.096.124:00080 60846 00008 TCP 736 172.016.001.163:01906 038.119.096.124:00080 60847 00008 TCP 739 172.016.001.163:01912 038.119.096.124:00080 60850 00008 TCP 740 172.016.001.163:01914 038.119.096.124:00080 60851 00008 TCP 2nd Visit Below
749 172.016.001.163:01958 038.119.096.103:00080 60881 00013 TCP 750 172.016.001.163:01960 038.119.096.103:00080 60882 00013 TCP 751 172.016.001.163:01962 038.119.096.103:00080 60883 00013 TCP 752 172.016.001.163:01964 038.119.096.103:00080 60884 00013 TCP 753 172.016.001.163:01966 038.119.096.103:00080 60885 00013 TCP 754 172.016.001.163:01969 038.119.096.103:00080 60886 00013 TCP 755 172.016.001.163:01970 038.119.096.103:00080 60887 00013 TCP 756 172.016.001.163:01974 038.119.096.103:00080 60888 00014 TCP 757 172.016.001.163:01973 038.119.096.103:00080 60889 00014 TCP 761 172.016.001.163:01982 038.119.096.103:00080 60893 00014 TCP 762 172.016.001.163:01985 038.119.096.103:00080 60894 00014 TCP 765 172.016.001.163:01990 038.119.096.103:00080 60897 00015 TCP 766 172.016.001.163:01992 038.119.096.103:00080 60898 00014 TCP 768 172.016.001.163:01954 038.119.096.124:00080 60879 00013 TCP 769 172.016.001.163:01998 038.119.096.103:00080 60901 00014 TCP 769 172.016.001.163:01957 038.119.096.124:00080 60880 00013 TCP 772 172.016.001.163:02004 038.119.096.103:00080 60904 00014 TCP 775 172.016.001.163:02010 038.119.096.103:00080 60907 00014 TCP 776 172.016.001.163:02012 038.119.096.103:00080 60908 00014 TCP 777 172.016.001.163:02014 038.119.096.103:00080 60909 00014 TCP 778 172.016.001.163:02017 038.119.096.103:00080 60910 00015 TCP 779 172.016.001.163:02020 038.119.096.103:00080 60911 00015 TCP 779 172.016.001.163:01977 038.119.096.124:00080 60890 00014 TCP 780 172.016.001.163:02022 038.119.096.103:00080 60912 00015 TCP 780 172.016.001.163:01978 038.119.096.124:00080 60891 00014 TCP 781 172.016.001.163:02024 038.119.096.103:00080 60913 00015 TCP 781 172.016.001.163:01980 038.119.096.124:00080 60892 00014 TCP 782 172.016.001.163:02026 038.119.096.103:00080 60914 00015 TCP 783 172.016.001.163:02028 038.119.096.103:00080 60915 00015 TCP 784 172.016.001.163:02030 038.119.096.103:00080 60916 00015 TCP 784 172.016.001.163:01986 038.119.096.124:00080 60895 00014 TCP 785 172.016.001.163:02032 038.119.096.103:00080 60917 00015 TCP 785 172.016.001.163:01988 038.119.096.124:00080 60896 00014 TCP 788 172.016.001.163:01994 038.119.096.124:00080 60899 00014 TCP 789 172.016.001.163:01996 038.119.096.124:00080 60900 00014 TCP 791 172.016.001.163:02000 038.119.096.124:00080 60902 00014 TCP 792 172.016.001.163:02002 038.119.096.124:00080 60903 00014 TCP 794 172.016.001.163:02006 038.119.096.124:00080 60905 00014 TCP 795 172.016.001.163:02008 038.119.096.124:00080 60906 00014 TCP 3rd Visit To your Site
794 172.016.001.163:02053 038.119.096.103:00080 60926 14397 TCP 795 172.016.001.163:02055 038.119.096.103:00080 60927 14397 TCP 813 172.016.001.163:02049 038.119.096.124:00080 60924 00007 TCP 814 172.016.001.163:02052 038.119.096.124:00080 60925 00008 TCP 817 172.016.001.163:02058 038.119.096.124:00080 60928 00008 TCP 818 172.016.001.163:02059 038.119.096.124:00080 60929 00008 TCP 819 172.016.001.163:02061 038.119.096.124:00080 60930 00008 TCP 820 172.016.001.163:02063 038.119.096.124:00080 60931 00008 TCP 821 172.016.001.163:02065 038.119.096.124:00080 60932 00008 TCP 822 172.016.001.163:02067 038.119.096.124:00080 60933 00008 TCP 823 172.016.001.163:02069 038.119.096.124:00080 60934 00008 TCP 824 172.016.001.163:02071 038.119.096.124:00080 60935 00009 TCP 825 172.016.001.163:02073 038.119.096.124:00080 60936 00009 TCP 826 172.016.001.163:02075 038.119.096.124:00080 60937 00009 TCP 827 172.016.001.163:02077 038.119.096.124:00080 60938 00009 TCP 828 172.016.001.163:02079 038.119.096.124:00080 60939 00016 TCP 829 172.016.001.163:02081 038.119.096.124:00080 60940 00016 TCP 830 172.016.001.163:02084 038.119.096.124:00080 60941 00017 TCP 831 172.016.001.163:02085 038.119.096.124:00080 60942 00017 TCP 832 172.016.001.163:02087 038.119.096.124:00080 60943 00017 TCP 833 172.016.001.163:02089 038.119.096.124:00080 60944 00017 TCP 834 172.016.001.163:02091 038.119.096.124:00080 60945 00017 TCP 835 172.016.001.163:02093 038.119.096.124:00080 60946 00017 TCP 836 172.016.001.163:02095 038.119.096.124:00080 60947 00017 TCP 837 172.016.001.163:02097 038.119.096.124:00080 60948 00017 TCP 838 172.016.001.163:02099 038.119.096.124:00080 60949 00017 TCP 839 172.016.001.163:02101 038.119.096.124:00080 60950 00017 TCP 840 172.016.001.163:02103 038.119.096.124:00080 60951 00017 TCP Each time i let the cache clear on the Nat device i have.
Does your site have some malicious code in it to use all the avaliable nat with the purpose of over flowing the buffer in it to do who knows what ???? Are you the webmaster??? If not you Should ask your webmaster the question i have asked you..
I will clairify this is out of NetFixer hands. And according to the TOS of this site. Below »Site FAQ
Once you post here, your post becomes the property of the site. You have no control over what happens to it from that point onward. It may be deleted, edited or, as with the vast majority of posts, left alone. The decision to post or not, according to these rules, is your own.
Oh I see that your website is hosted on Ip 38.119.96.124 is acually a
OrgName: Performance Systems International Inc. OrgID: PSI Address: 1015 31st St NW City: Washington StateProv: DC PostalCode: 20007 Country: US
NetRange: 38.112.0.0 - 38.119.255.255 CIDR: 38.112.0.0/13 NetName: COGENT-NB-0002 NetHandle: NET-38-112-0-0-1 Parent: NET-38-0-0-0-1 NetType: Reallocated NameServer: AUTH1.DNS.COGENTCO.COM NameServer: AUTH2.DNS.COGENTCO.COM Comment: ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.cogentco.com:4321/ RegDate: 2003-08-20 Updated: 2004-03-11
OrgAbuseHandle: COGEN-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Cogent Abuse OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-875-4311 OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@cogentco.com
OrgNOCHandle: ZC108-ARIN OrgNOCName: Cogent Communications OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-875-4311 OrgNOCEmail: noc@cogentco.com
OrgTechHandle: IPALL-ARIN OrgTechName: IP Allocation OrgTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311 OrgTechEmail: ipalloc@cogentco.com
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-04-20 19:10 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. In which i get alot of Hits on My other Nat device that is setup To soley Take on all the unsolicited packets so that this pc never sees any of that unsolicited Trash that comes my way.
Thank You for your time :) ;) ;) ;)
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| reply to NetFixer "Why does your website with only one visit and page open to it make my router Nat table look like this..."
I am not the administrator but I will ask. I really don't know but if the administrator can't find out or if you have some time can you help figure this out?
Looks like it could be Cogents network, where are you located, can we get in touch?
Let me know.
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1 edit | said by N_P :
"Why does your website with only one visit and page open to it make my router Nat table look like this..."
I am not the administrator but I will ask. I really don't know but if the administrator can't find out or if you have some time can you help figure this out?
Looks like it could be Cogents network, where are you located, can we get in touch?
Let me know.
NP Which site is being talked about. Before I say anything. Visited one site may or not be it but well just ? Not a bad or good statement just well why. May have visited wrong site.
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Slow me may have figured it out. Is this like an add? Helps you get what you are looking for? If I am right sorry I never use this type of page. Good or bad. Direct links and search engines are my friends.
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| reply to NetFixer This is the reply from administration:
"Unless the browser is doing pipelining it will open a connection for every item on a page that needs to be downloaded. A page that includes many graphics and javascript features will end up opening more connections than simpler websites. That is not malicious, harmful or unusual."
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  sivran Long Live The Suite Premium join:2003-09-15 Arlington, TX clubs: | I think you are rather infamous.
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| reply to NetFixer After reading 4 pages of posts why not just walk away, it's a forum on the internet before this I didn't even know about updated.com but now I do see you got publicity I'm not going to bad mouth "N_P" because he might sue me or seomthing but after reading all this why not let the issue die so what if something was said it's the internet.
People trash each other all the time true or not besides if the post is deleted it's cached on some web crawler or something just give it up go back to your day job and get over it.
besides how can you claim that netfixer ruined your business or put a monetary amount of "damage" that he has caused.
Whatever though just my 2cents please don't sue for the right I have to have freedom of speech. -- "Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious."- Alan Minter, Boxer"I get to go to lots of overseas places, like Canada."- Britney Spears, Pop Singer |
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| reply to N_P said by N_P :
This is the reply from administration:
"Unless the browser is doing pipelining it will open a connection for every item on a page that needs to be downloaded. A page that includes many graphics and javascript features will end up opening more connections than simpler websites. That is not malicious, harmful or unusual."
N P Hi NP, Listen. We are sorry what happen to you with SIDI. »www.seclaw.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000716.html And we respect your right for free enterprise no matter what business you conduct. But many of us thought that after you had suffered with lawyers and hardships, you would be the last one to start harassing another individual like NetFixer. If I were you, I would go to the above link and set the record straight on the outcome. I feel that is more damaging to your real reputation.
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| reply to NetFixer Its pretty rare I read a forum topic this thoroughly. I have a newfound respect for you NetFixer, you have handled this like a real professional on multiple levels. KUDOS  One thing is for sure.......I will always remember the name Nicholas Papadopoulos, the sites updated.com etc; GlobalTel, MelbourneIT etc; Thank You for shining a bright light on this NetFixer  -- Why do I have long hair?? It covers my bald spot! |
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| said by gilligun :I have a newfound respect for you NetFixer, you have handled this like a real professional on multiple levels. KUDOS : I second that. NetFixer has acted like a pro here.
I know that if I wanted to hire a consultant, that is the thoughtfulness I'd look for. It took reflection and consideration to respond like this, and what client wouldn't want that. |
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| reply to NetFixer i'm not ready for this to be over, i still have some popcorn left 
I think Nicholas may have received some bad PR from this. Never heard the name or the site before. Now that I have, it shines with a negative light. 3 year old post and now he wants to threaten legal action THEN offers a job? Dude, you cant blame Google or anyone else for what they say about you. How much time do you spend going after people saying things about you?
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| reply to NetFixer said by NetFixer :Actually that ended with his 3:17 AM harassing phone call. I guess his lawyer forgot to warn him that such actions could expose him to criminal prosecution. So, why didn't you report this to the police and the phone company? If some douchebag tried this stunt with me, that's precisely what I would have done, and I would have pressed the issue until criminal charges were filed.
The followup would be a nice fat countersuit. It's pretty hard to demonstrate that you're not "infamous" in civil court after you've been convicted in criminal court of calling people up in the middle of the night and verbally harassing them.
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| 1) Because Doctor Dan, neither the police nor the phone company will act on one phone call. They have better things to do with their time. Besides, should they put everyone making an unwanted phone call at 3am behind bars (ex-girlfriends, ex-boyfriends, etc.)? You need repeated action and intent. He apologized, and that doesn't sound like harassment, more like a mistake.
2) There is no countersuit when then is no lawsuit to begin with. I suspect there won't be one. Furthermore, IF the phone call were a criminal offense, it would NOT be a "countersuit", it would be a criminal matter pursued by the state. If there were a civil suit, what would the damages be? No damages, no lawsuit.
3) Have you ever started a lawsuit? Any idea of the time and expense involved? Anyone who knows will tell you to avoid lawsuits at all costs. They are NOT the solution to problems, and only those who have never been involved in one suggest them.
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| reply to Name Game Thank you for your wide interest and I am glad you found that case so that you can better understand some of this. That case we won on summary judgment. Needless to say a lot of that maybe related here.
It shows you that there are individuals out there that have motives and reasons to want to defame other people. Consider that carefully. Did you know what really happened or why or who wrote what you read before you take upon making a statement or "through your punch" on someone you never met and don't know?
By the way there is no secrecy about me or Updated so instead of searching for "things" ask or I can tell you, Updated.com was owed by GlobalBell until 2002 and then by Updated.com Inc. About me, I am Nicholas I am 35 years old and I live in FL. What happened? I was told by someone I personally care very much about to read the post from Netflix (I didn't know about his post) so I contacted Netflix. I didnt know who he is and so asked him what was his post about or if he knows me. He said he didn't remember it so I sent him the link and information (I never threaten him at all until he started this new thread). And he kept posting what I was hoping I was going to be able to point out to him personally without all this (and with respect to my privacy). I just wanted to point out to Netflix that he relied on source(s) that were bad, without all this.
As you probably know friends and family occasionally look at the internet and search for our names and I think its only fair to respect each other. If anyone wants to contact me personally feel free.
Send me a note at nicholas(AT)updated.com
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2 edits | reply to NetFixer That is exactly why netfixer started this thread..and asked you to respond why you went after him personally. We all know there are rooten people out there..I do not believe anything I see or read on the internet to be facts.
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1 edit | reply to Blue2 said by Blue2 :1) Because Doctor Dan, neither the police nor the phone company will act on one phone call. They have better things to do with their time. Besides, should they put everyone making an unwanted phone call at 3am behind bars (ex-girlfriends, ex-boyfriends, etc.)? You need repeated action and intent. He apologized, and that doesn't sound like harassment, more like a mistake. There is repeated action and intent: unwanted and harassing email messages and phone calls.
said by Blue2 :2) There is no countersuit when then is no lawsuit to begin with. I suspect there won't be one. Furthermore, IF the phone call were a criminal offense, it would NOT be a "countersuit", it would be a criminal matter pursued by the state. If there were a civil suit, what would the damages be? No damages, no lawsuit. Harassment is grounds for a countersuit (or a lawsuit, if the opposing party hasn't already filed).
said by Blue2 :3) Have you ever started a lawsuit? Any idea of the time and expense involved? Anyone who knows will tell you to avoid lawsuits at all costs. They are NOT the solution to problems, and only those who have never been involved in one suggest them. Yes, I have. My sister also happens to be an attorney. Those who like to throw threats of lawsuits around usually blink when they're reminded that some of their activities (e.g. harassing phone calls in the middle of the night) could be construed as criminal acts, and not looked upon too kindly in civil court.
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@atlanticbb.net | reply to 93254336 You didn't read my earlier reply to this. The phone number from Netflix was posted on his website as his business phone (don't waste your time on this). |
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