The opposite is why these businesses are in China in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18216393 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:04:50 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:04:50 EDT Re: It's not some random occurence... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18220763 NormanS :
said by satellite68 See Profile :

I suggest you go read a month's worth of China's history. As a couple thousand year old culture, we as westerners just don't understand them as well as we should. However, we should be fixing our own house first before we're poking at someone elses. Not that we should ignore human rights abuses-not at all, frankly-but when our own country turns a blind eye to the out of control roller coaster that is our finances (Haliburton comes to mind), we risk becoming a Stalinist society ourselves.
The history of China is full of Mandarins, warlords, bloody fighting, conquest. It is what Europe might have been if there had been a European king who could have imposed unity on Europe; at the expense of the rights of individuals to decide there own fates.

And Haliburton isn't likely to bring us to a Stalinist state of existence. You picked the wrong WWII-era dictator.
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said by Noah Vail See Profile :

Yea. Just a dissident or two. That should help you obscure the billions who are living in an increasingly Stalinist atmosphere with few freedoms and fewer liberties.

That should help you ignore Google helping establish the most persuasive censorship net in the world.

Those billions are just people after all, not dollars.

There ARE priorities.

NV
I suggest you go read a month's worth of China's history. As a couple thousand year old culture, we as westerners just don't understand them as well as we should. However, we should be fixing our own house first before we're poking at someone elses. Not that we should ignore human rights abuses-not at all, frankly-but when our own country turns a blind eye to the out of control roller coaster that is our finances (Haliburton comes to mind), we risk becoming a Stalinist society ourselves.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18218724 Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:10:35 EDT Re: It's not some random occurence... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18216823 Noah Vail : Yea. Just a dissident or two. That should help you obscure the billions who are living in an increasingly Stalinist atmosphere with few freedoms and fewer liberties.

That should help you ignore Google helping establish the most persuasive censorship net in the world.

Those billions are just people after all, not dollars.

There ARE priorities.

NV
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Abortion: Improves the Gene Pool!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18216823 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:46:15 EDT Re: It's not some random occurence... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18216779 satellite68 :
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If Haliburton were twice the monster they are commonly accused of, it wouldn't compare with these atrocities


Yeah, no bid contracts for countless billions with no accountability=selling out a dissident or two. Depends upon who you ask. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18216779 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:30:55 EDT It's not some random occurence... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18216585 Noah Vail : ...it's the product of carefully thought out decisions.

After much consideration Yahoo! (once again) DECIDES to hand out the vital information necessary to enable the Chinese gvt to beat and imprison a dissident.

Google DECIDES to aid the Chinese gvt in striping that information from Cho Citizen that one day might bring him liberty.

Microsoft DECIDES to yield to (as yet unknown) concessions in order to profit from their product there.

Each of these corp.s could have DECIDED something else. But that would have cut into their profit.

Cash before Character. Profits before Inalienable Human Rights. If Haliburton were twice the monster they are commonly accused of, it wouldn't compare with these atrocities.

But accusing Yahoo! and Google doesn't satisfy the same agenda that accusing Haliburton does. Thus the much difference press coverage.

It would be appropriate for Yahoo!MicrosoftGoogle to suffer great financial penalties for their actions.

NV
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Abortion: Improves the Gene Pool!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18216585 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:39:33 EDT The opposite is why these businesses are in China http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18216393 devrandom : Most of these businesses, in retrospect, probably came into China with the prospects of bringing "freedom" to it.

Unfortunately in this case, it simply looks like they dug the hole a little deeper.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18216393 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:55:55 EDT