| We are living this now... In the next town over, Hancock, MA....they don't even have reliable phone service.
We have had to establish NGO's to try and fix the problem
»www.bconnect.org/
»www.pioneervalleyconnect.org/
At least the Patrick administration is trying to do something about it.
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| I have worked out there, it's to desolate and mountainous for cellular , you guys think anything else can be done there ?
I have worked all of western mass on the cell towers and power line infrastructure. There is no cost affective way to provide broadband to the masses there.
You would need to build a muni and literally string fiber along the transmission lines. I know National Grid has fiber out there , so it can be done, but who is going to pay ? You can't ask us tax payers out in Boston to pop for your needs.
Build a muni with fiber (good luck there) or using the motorola canopy system. Maybe wimax , but I can say that it is not cheap and you guys will be paying an arm and a leg just for access to the system.
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| The issue is that Verizon et al have been given monetary incentives to extend access of DSL into the rural areas.
They have done nothing except cherry pick and use the incentives to deploy greater service in Eastern MA.
MA has even gone so far as to put in conduit along I-91 and the MASSPike free for use to verizon and any carrier that would use it to help with this problem...to date, nothing.
The "best" part is that the original rural phone service tax credit (done in 1915) hasn't even extended reliable phone service to some of these areas. This is sort of like a state version of the USF...to extend basic phone and now broadband service but all it's done was increase profits for verizon in MA. |
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Spencer, MA
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said by BosstonesOwn: You can't ask us tax payers out in Boston to pop for your needs. Hmm, seems like those of us in Central and Western Mass are subsidizing you Boston folk everytime we ride on the pike. So yes I agree, let's just make sure only people inside Rt 128 get the bill for the Big Dig. |
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| What some are missing is the tax break was to encourage the expansion of RURAL telephone service. Considering that they haven't even fulfilled that, we (western MA) are suffering because we've subsidized Verizon to the point of expanding FIOS et al while people in Western MA still don't even have BASIC reliable phone service. |
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join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
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said by BosstonesOwn:I have worked out there, it's to desolate and mountainous for cellular , you guys think anything else can be done there ? I have worked all of western mass on the cell towers and power line infrastructure. There is no cost affective way to provide broadband to the masses there. You would need to build a muni and literally string fiber along the transmission lines. I know National Grid has fiber out there , so it can be done, but who is going to pay ? You can't ask us tax payers out in Boston to pop for your needs. Build a muni with fiber (good luck there) or using the motorola canopy system. Maybe wimax , but I can say that it is not cheap and you guys will be paying an arm and a leg just for access to the system. On that note, why not do what the Glasgow Ky electric company did. Provided BB to homes, cheaply, using it's electrical lines. At least they make it seem/sound simple.. 
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| said by tc1uscg:said by BosstonesOwn:I have worked out there, it's to desolate and mountainous for cellular , you guys think anything else can be done there ? I have worked all of western mass on the cell towers and power line infrastructure. There is no cost affective way to provide broadband to the masses there. You would need to build a muni and literally string fiber along the transmission lines. I know National Grid has fiber out there , so it can be done, but who is going to pay ? You can't ask us tax payers out in Boston to pop for your needs. Build a muni with fiber (good luck there) or using the motorola canopy system. Maybe wimax , but I can say that it is not cheap and you guys will be paying an arm and a leg just for access to the system. On that note, why not do what the Glasgow Ky electric company did. Provided BB to homes, cheaply, using it's electrical lines. At least they make it seem/sound simple.. » www.epblan.com/ Because you do that and people cry about it as rf pollution because it interferes with the hams.
wdoa last time I checked it don't cost you $3 to go over a bridge or into a tunnel. You pay for what you use out there. Bet you will love that tunnel if you ever have to come to boston to use the airport or for any other things.
Anonproxy trust me I know where they have conduits and what is lit in the area. You don't understand the issue. They can't get fiber to main of the co's there. And it's a cost issue versus time issue. It's way to expensive to string fiber to get to many co's out there. They can't run it up the main high ways then branch out. Fiber can't be run reliably like that.
It can cost over 50 k a mile in bad areas like western mass. Do you think if they pull these tax benes. you guys will ever see fiber ? You live in rural america man , you can't expect a company that is trying to make a profit to just run out and string you guys a data link. It's not that easy. Wimax may be your future.
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2 edits | Wow.. didn't know there were that many homes in MA living in the dark.  Since the technology has been out there for YEARS, it's not like the cost is as high as it was 15 years ago with they, a little ole cheap ass electric company had a bright idea and send BB to homes. From my following, no HAMS cried about QRM or QRN on any ham freq's. If they had problems, maybe they need to go back and read how to properly ground/shield their antennas and stop "modifying" their rigs, learn to live with harmonics or find another hobby. Public service bands cause more issues with HAM then sending a broadband signal down the pipe... |
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join:2004-09-02
Holyoke, MA | reply to BosstonesOwn
said by BosstonesOwn: but who is going to pay ? You can't ask us tax payers out in Boston to pop for your needs. Excuse me!
I live in Holyoke, the poorest city in New England. We are down $30M a year in overall taxes payed out to the Boston area, to pay for the Big Dig.
You would think since Holyoke is bad off, it would get more than it's fair share back, but for over 20 years, we have been raped by Boston. Also worth noting that Newton, roght outside of Boston, and the richest town the US, gets back more than it puts in. |
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said by BosstonesOwn:You can't ask us tax payers out in Boston to pop for your needs. Are you kidding me?
I had to pop for that hole in the ground you call the big dig out there!
Wonder why our roads and bridges in western mass have not been maintained in the last 10 years.
THE BIG PIG that's why.
Last time i looked at the map the mass border did not stop at the 495 belt.
So share the wealth Boston and pony up for some western mass development. |
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