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It is good we know where this spam is coming from so the people can be identified and the spam regulated. We know the spammers will try and do something else to spam but if we can hinder them enough it may not be as attractive to do so. Although money is really tight in Poland so if there is any way to make money I am sure they are trying to do it. I would like to see the gambling statistics for poland online. -- www.LakeSemaJ.com |
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  T1 Rocky
join:2002-11-15 Dallas, TX
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| I don't get it. Why not just block this polish companies IP's? That solution won't work with all of the people on that list but if you've got one ISP that is that bad of an offender then this seems like a logical solution. Am I missing something? |
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  Jehu Premium join:2002-09-13 MA | IPs are a dime a dozen to spammers.
Spamming is so complex these days. It's not just about tossing out millions of emails. -- The worm he licks my bones |
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 AdamD
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| I'm Polish and visit Poland every couple of years. I think people are pretty clueless there when it comes to security. So called IT professionals never heard of ZoneAlarm and Firefox. I talked to one of those briefly and asked him why he still uses IE, he was like "why not?". They believe that as long a machine has some sort of antivirus it's safe, no idea of worms and trojans. They don't patch Windows because MS is evil so they happily run unpatched XP SP1 without firewalls. It's a wild east of IT, a total mess. Plus, most Poles have the attitude that they know everything: everyone of them is a pro-mechanic, smith, carpenter, doctor and IT pro just because he is. IT shops are run by people who got their IT education from web and computer magazines. It's not to say there are no real pros there but they either work for a foreign corporation or already migrated to the west. |
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 AdamD
join:2002-01-09 Maspeth, NY | By the way, tpnet.pl is the Polish Telcom (Telekomunikacja Polska - TP), largest in the country. I think it's still owned by the govt so good luck getting anywhere with them:)
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  Doctor Four My other vehicle is a TARDIS Premium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX
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| reply to AdamD That's sad - so called IT Professionals being totally clueless about security. Sounds like they have a major PEBKAC problem.
So what will it take for Polish Telecom to get its customers (and them, since they are responsible for their network) to clean up their act? Blackholing by their upstream? -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot) |
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 AdamD
join:2002-01-09 Maspeth, NY | I don't know but the country is quite a political mess and IT security is probably way down on the priority list. Laws are inadequate and/or unenforceable. I guess blocking them would cause some reaction though.
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 EO50
join:2005-01-23 united state
| reply to AdamD It is actually a private company now. A good percentage of it is actually owned by France Télécom.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telekomunikacja_Polska |
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 AdamD
join:2002-01-09 Maspeth, NY | Yeah, I wasn't sure of that. A. |
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  RonKid
@mindspring.com
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Please read this so you may change your opinion a bit as to who's the best )
Warsaw U Wins World Collegiate Programming Contest
3/20/2007
By Paul McCloskey Three students from Poland's Warsaw University won the 31st-annual International Collegiate Programming Contest, dubbed the Olympics of computer programming. The Polish team vanquished 6,099 teams from 1,756 universities in 82 countries on six continents that began with regional contests last fall. Tsinghua University in China, St. Petersburg University of IT, Mechanics and Optics in Russia, and MIT in the U.S., finished competition in second, third, and fourth places, respectively. Cal Tech's was the only other U.S. team among the top 12 finishers. The contest is sponsored by the Association of Computing Machinery and IBM Corp.
The Polish team--Filip Wolski, Marcin Pilipczuk, and Marek Cygan--was led by coach Jan Madey.
The competition, which wound up last week in Tokyo, challenged students to solve a semester's worth of programming problems in five hours. The problems were modeled on real-world business challenges, such as improving airport baggage claim process, and decreasing the time it takes to load cargo ships. |
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  Jerry Boy
@tpnet.pl
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It should be call French Telecom becouse it's in french hands.
Don't make all polish computer users stupid. I'm polish, I use Opera 9.20 & NOD32 antivirus (perfectly fast becouse it has been written in assembeler). I recive about 30 spam e-mail per day and most of them is US, western european or russian.. 5% means about 2 letters in my case. it's not a serious problem when you compare to number of 30...:P |
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