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bjf123
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reply to lilhurricane
Re: [UD] All Good Things Come To An End...

I'm going to have to do some testing before I can move my Win systems over to TSC. My Mac's been crunching TSC for years but the last time I tried TSC on my home Win system, it didn't play nice with my AV. I certainly don't want to move the 5 or 6 systems I have at work running UD over until I can be sure there are no conflicts.
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Ascent
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I am using eset nod32 and avg free on my computers and no issues so far with TSC.


bjf123
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I think it was AVG Free, but that was over a year ago. Maybe the conflict has been resolved.

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reply to lilhurricane
I don't know much about it, but grid shows a link for
»www.computeagainstcancer.org/

is this a legit project? nothing against TSC but personally I'd rather work on a cancer project. If the above site doesn't check out, I'll probably switch to folding@home
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Doug, I know what you mean about wanting to find a project that works on cancer. TSC is a great project and any results could potentially be used towards a cancer cure, but I think many of us would like something a little more focused towards cancer in addition to TSC. Many of us are looking at options right now. My main goal is that we find a project that fits our team well... our team is focused on cancer so that's pretty darn important.

Re: »www.computeagainstcancer.org/ I've looked at it and have run it. It seems to have a lot of potential, however it has no teams, no stats, no forums, no community support. There are also scary things such as they sell the use of their grid to for-profit companies that may or may not be using it for medical research. Some (all?) of the money used for this goes to the non-profits, so it's not necessarily a bad thing, but there is no solid information on what's going where. No information on the client of what you are actually running. This is not a new project so there's no reason to think things will change either. It's close to a good fit, but there is just too much lacking when looking at a team view. Individually, it might be a great project.

Please feel free to discuss any other projects here....
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As a cancer survivor, I am extremely interested in, and dedicated to, participating in research that focuses on finding a cure for cancer. Cancer has touched the lives of many of us directly or indirectly through friends or relatives. That being said, I also think what Brian pointed out about www.computeagainstcancer.org has a lot of validity. There are some problems with this particular project.

Also, let's also be open to looking at projects that have a very strong potential of providing research (projects) that may work on cancer projects in the very near future. Projects that may be promising. Personally, I'm a bit reticent to work on "for-profit" projects. Particularly when we don't know much about the specific 'client' we're running, or *where* the "profits" are going.
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  I agree 100%. That is one of the things I appreciated so much about the UD Grid - I was reasonably confident that their research results were assured to go into the public domain body of knowledge for the profit of all mankind, not to line the pockets of some corporate investors.

I will pretty much insist that any project I donate my resources to will be similarly commited to open scientific knowledge.

Tim
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after reading more about compute against cancer i don't like it for the same reasons as dersgniw, dolphin and timcuth. the community aspect isn't a biggie for me but the corporate and open data issues are.
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reply to Dersgniw
Well, frankly, I'm stunned by this news. I don't monitor the Grid or TD forums daily, but received the alert through the UD agent last night. This really seems to have come out of no where.

I agree with the last few posts. While I also have moved a few crunchers to TSC, I'm not sold on it being my next project. I'd much prefer something that is more focused on Cancer. Ideally, it would be nice for a new cancer project to start up on the BOINC platform, but now I'm dreaming!
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reply to lilhurricane
WorldCommunityGrid says a new fight cancer project will be starting soon, but that remains to be seen. Worth keeping an eye on.
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Dersgniw
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Yes, they're just rolling up one project and will be starting a new one in a couple months.


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reply to lilhurricane
Very sad news....I really enjoyed installing UD on multiple computers, even for my friends. I'll miss running UD and always checking my stats, but there is still TSC.

Anyone recommend any apps like UD that I can run?


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I went ahead and switched to TSC.


beerbum
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reply to bjf123
no problems now with TSC and AVG.. running AVG 7.5 (free) and have two TSC processes running on this box with no problem at all..

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reply to lilhurricane
Did you all see how much time we contributed as a team?

Over 4,000 years!

Applause! Applause!

Now just think what we'll done when all those 'puters are switched over!

I'm honored to have worked on this, and will continue to contribute cycles wherever I can.

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reply to lilhurricane
argh..........

About the time I get it fixed on my fastest machine. I spent just about a hole day getting it working. I was about to post I think it is fixed when I read this...
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Unfortunately TSC and one other piece of software on my machine really don't get along. I'll be with the team 'in spirit' though ...
Here too.. It seems to be a memory hog or something. When I run TSC I have to reboot a lot or things slow drastically.

I do like what they are doing though at TSC. But I would like to see an alternative.

The world community grid is out there.. Don't know if that is worth it though as it looks and feels to much like UD. And we see what ud just did..
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marti
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said by spm9999 See Profile :

said by squirt See Profile :

Unfortunately TSC and one other piece of software on my machine really don't get along. I'll be with the team 'in spirit' though ...
Here too.. It seems to be a memory hog or something. When I run TSC I have to reboot a lot or things slow drastically.

I do like what they are doing though at TSC. But I would like to see an alternative.

The world community grid is out there.. Don't know if that is worth it though as it looks and feels to much like UD. And we see what ud just did..
There are "fixes" to run TSC in a more efficient manner: »TD TSC FAQ {Archived} »Conserving Resources on your machine

I have been running Genome Comparison through World Community Grid. The client is newer than what we used for UD -- so far, no major problems.
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reply to lilhurricane
I'm not part of the team here so I should probably stay out of this but having read through the thread and seeing that people are wanting additional options to tsc I've decided to post.

At the moment I am running folding@home, but I think worldcommunity grid is a good option to consider. I have no affiliation with the project. It has a more direct focus on diseases, which seems to be a concern for some people, unlike many other projects which are more basic research oriented. There is a windows agent, but you can also run it under boinc and therefore linux as well. There are a number of active projects and you can choose which you wish to run. If you don't want to watch the application closely it is better to choose a couple of projects so you don't run the risk of not having any work. If you want to watch it closely you can choose a single project that you are most interested in. There is a cancer project but, based on the stats, it isn't sending out work at the moment. There are active aids(it is supporting the fight aids at home project) and muscular dystrophy projects as well as genome and folding projects.
It is a well funded and solid operation.

Here is a link to each projects specific requirements:

»www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/···nimumreq

This is the general help section:

»www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewHelp.do

Here are stats and you can check individual project stats from this page:

»www.worldcommunitygrid.org/stat/···lobal.do

I'm not a fan of putting all one's eggs into one basket so I think it is worth a serious look as an alternative project along with tsc.


asdfdfdfdf

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reply to lilhurricane
I should add that most of the project work units run in reasonable periods of time so that an athlon xp era cpu can do a few work units a day, unlike things like folding@home where some of the work units can get pretty hairy and require nearly a week on such a machine. My present folding work unit is going to take 175 hours on a 2 ghz xp machine, for example.
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