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cdru
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Re: This will not matter

said by patcat88 See Profile :

But the question then is, are you required to give up your encryption keys ALA 1984 to "show" you arent guilty of a crime? Or is plausible deniability and 4th amendment still legal in USA?
They could care less what you are actually transmitting. You don't HAVE to give up anything. Just as they don't HAVE to provide you with a network connection either.
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Thaler
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They will just go after those workstations exhibiting massive amounts of traffic. They will get them even if they use encryption to try and hide. Nothing the students do will hide the amount of traffic generated by P2P.
...other than the workstations that legitimately and daily genererate a lot of traffic. Some projects in CS required a lot of number-crunching and data-sharing through the computer networks there. Students tapping into this also generated a ton o' traffic.

I'd hate to see the universities cracking down on Computer Science majors acting well within their rights.

patcat88

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by osrk See Profile :

said by patcat88 See Profile :

You mean VPNing through a non-uni relay to hide P2P traffic?
No any sort of encryption no matter how weak will get by these devices. Torpark and the standard encryption on bittorrent easily gets by these devices and allows people to use bittorrent again.

This is more like a facade than anything, it will have no lasting impact.
They will just go after those workstations exhibiting massive amounts of traffic. They will get them even if they use encryption to try and hide. Nothing the students do will hide the amount of traffic generated by P2P.
But the question then is, are you required to give up your encryption keys ALA 1984 to "show" you arent guilty of a crime? Or is plausible deniability and 4th amendment still legal in USA?

Egh, you can always say your rendering your powerpoint presentation over a cluster with the "RAM" of the CPU being accessed over the internet (plenty of traffic I think).


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said by osrk See Profile :

said by patcat88 See Profile :

You mean VPNing through a non-uni relay to hide P2P traffic?
No any sort of encryption no matter how weak will get by these devices. Torpark and the standard encryption on bittorrent easily gets by these devices and allows people to use bittorrent again.

This is more like a facade than anything, it will have no lasting impact.
They will just go after those workstations exhibiting massive amounts of traffic. They will get them even if they use encryption to try and hide. Nothing the students do will hide the amount of traffic generated by P2P.
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osrk

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Sterling, CT

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said by patcat88 See Profile :

You mean VPNing through a non-uni relay to hide P2P traffic?
No any sort of encryption no matter how weak will get by these devices. Torpark and the standard encryption on bittorrent easily gets by these devices and allows people to use bittorrent again.

This is more like a facade than anything, it will have no lasting impact.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
reply to osrk
You mean VPNing through a non-uni relay to hide P2P traffic?


Bill
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said by osrk See Profile :

Unfortunately for them it just gave all the geeks on the campus an excuse to talk to all the hot girls on how they could still download their favorite episode of "Grey's Anatomy" via enabling the encryption on there favorite bit torrent.
Maybe the university blocking P2P is a good thing then

osrk

join:2005-02-28
Sterling, CT

reply to TKJunkMail
The University of Connecticut all did this earlier this year. They set up packet header sniffing devices on the edge of the network to inspect each packet header. Unfortunately for them it just gave all the geeks on the campus an excuse to talk to all the hot girls on how they could still download their favorite episode of "Grey's Anatomy" via enabling the encryption on there favorite bit torrent. Of course there were more modifications than that but I'll leave you to your imagination.
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