ChrisCowles
join:2003-05-03
Gainesville, FL
| reply to Jehu
Re: Interesting
said by Jehu  :I'd rather have congress stay the hell out of telling businesses what those busninesses can and can't charge for their services. But isn't the government, through the copyright board, already doing just that anyway? |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
2 edits | reply to Anon
made moot by deletion above. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy :Then there is a heck of a lot more they need to stay out of too. 7.5% is something to bitch at? That's the sales tax in my home town in California. Less than 10% expense to leech off a product to make money? What are internet radio "broadcasters" wanting out of this? Free content? To be honest, I'm getting sick of the so-called innovators who are taking other people's work and property, making a "business" out of it, and then complaining when the true owner wants to be compensated. Open a bakery store to sell your goods and see what you do when someone comes in and starts selling your bread and doesn't want to pay you for it. All the government is being asked of / or doing is settling a dispute from where laws are unclear.. ie: doing their job for once. 7.5% is not unfair. People often confuse theft with innovation... They are not bitching about the 7.5%, they were bitching that the webcasters were to be required to pay 100% more than they are paying now under the old agreement.
Imagine if a state or local municipality decided to raise the taxes cable companies pay by 100%. I am sure you would be in here ranting how the federal government needed to come in and stop the extortion. 
It would be stupid to put the webcasters out of business (which is what they would have done) since it is becoming a bigger medium day by day. Keep cutting up your audience and watch your profits go out the door.
This has NOTHING to do with innovation. Webcasters are nothing more than radio stations on the internet. They advertise to pay their bills as do regular radio stations. I fail to see the big innovation unless you are talking about streaming radio. |
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Rusty Hodge
@speakeasy.net
| reply to Jehu
The government has always ben involved. Copyright was created by the Government. They've always set the rate. However for this particular rate, the process involved a 3 judge panel and closed meetings, and in the end webcasters paid a different rate than satellite ratio. (Not to mention that over-the-air radio is exempted in copyright law from paying any royalties at all). |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| reply to Jehu
Re: Interesting
Excuse me, but when you are in business to make money off of other people's work you better be sure to compensate that person. At least this new legislation proposed makes the compensation fair so that the business can still do what they do.
said by Jehu :I'd rather have congress stay the hell out of telling businesses what those busninesses can and can't charge for their services. Where in the world do you get the notion that royalty payments dictate what businesses can charge for their service? Royalties only dictate what you have to pay for to use the copyrighted material. You charge what you want. The debate here is how much your overhead will be. With this legislation you pay a percentage of your business income instead of a flat fee per song (which would kill small businesses). |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to fiberguy
Did you read the fucking article before you vomited that comment?
The CRB wanted over 100%. This bill puts Internet radio onto the same schedule Satellite radio pays.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to Jehu
Then there is a heck of a lot more they need to stay out of too.
7.5% is something to bitch at? That's the sales tax in my home town in California. Less than 10% expense to leech off a product to make money? What are internet radio "broadcasters" wanting out of this? Free content?
To be honest, I'm getting sick of the so-called innovators who are taking other people's work and property, making a "business" out of it, and then complaining when the true owner wants to be compensated.
Open a bakery store to sell your goods and see what you do when someone comes in and starts selling your bread and doesn't want to pay you for it.
All the government is being asked of / or doing is settling a dispute from where laws are unclear.. ie: doing their job for once.
7.5% is not unfair.
People often confuse theft with innovation...
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"Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-reitchous and lazy..." |
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Jehu
Premium
join:2002-09-13
MA | reply to SRFireside
I'd rather have congress stay the hell out of telling businesses what those busninesses can and can't charge for their services.
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The worm he licks my bones |
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