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brianiscool

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heh

Antenna is the best source
cwh

join:2006-05-14
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Re: heh

Just wait till the local stations start lowering bitrate so they can have multiple subchannels.
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Re: heh

Actually, this might not happen so much as you would think.

The FCC recently mandated that each sub channel (even if it is just weather radar) must present a certain amount of childrens programming. And, it must be counted seperately of the main channel's childrens programming content.

So, if the requirement is 20 hours a month for your main channel and you're running 3 sub channels you've now got to come up with an additional 60 hours of content.

Many of the stations in my market shut down their weather radar channel because of this requirement.
cwh

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Re: heh

Childrens programs can have advertisements too. I bet the shutdown is only long to find content and advertisers. It seems like a dumb requirement.
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said by cwh See Profile :

Childrens programs can have advertisements too. I bet the shutdown is only long to find content and advertisers. It seems like a dumb requirement.
There are a lot of limitations for commercials during kid's programming. Depending on going rates, it might not even be worth it.

»www.fcc.gov/parents/commercials.html
»www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/childtv.html

I also have it on pretty good authority that those sub channels are gone for good (atleast on the stations in question here).
cwh

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Re: heh

Given that broadcasting a subchannel is very low cost, I cant see how it would not be worth while,even if you run the childrens programs at a loss.
JimF

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Re: heh

But if it were worth it to run the children's programming before the requirement in order to earn the advertising revenue, they would have done it. The children's programming requirement can only reduce their incentive to run the sub-channel.

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Re: heh

now why would they do that? seriously. the FCC wouldn't do it willy nilly. does it screw over cableco's somehow and benefit telcos?
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Re: heh

If I were to encounter a programme with E/I on it, it should be commercial free. Why the FCC is allowing commercials to be put in kid's programmes is beyond me.

What a way to get kids today introduced to "ads"
(skip)

(There misleading anyway)

Rob

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said by ke4pym See Profile :

Many of the stations in my market shut down their weather radar channel because of this requirement.
Only one of my local stations operates a weather channel and they started it up not long before the Jan 1, 2007 deadline for this children's programming requirement. It's still running today too....

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said by Hall See Profile :

said by ke4pym See Profile :

Many of the stations in my market shut down their weather radar channel because of this requirement.
Only one of my local stations operates a weather channel and they started it up not long before the Jan 1, 2007 deadline for this children's programming requirement. It's still running today too....
I'll second that; I'm really glad they did too; while it's definitely not an exciting channel, I find it far more beneficial to watch and listen to that THE Weather Channel, but that's just me.

Either way, I really like my HD offering off of my antenna; all but one of my regular channels broadcasts in HD at some time during the week.
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said by Fox McCloud See Profile :

said by Hall See Profile :

said by ke4pym See Profile :

Many of the stations in my market shut down their weather radar channel because of this requirement.
Only one of my local stations operates a weather channel and they started it up not long before the Jan 1, 2007 deadline for this children's programming requirement. It's still running today too....
I'll second that; I'm really glad they did too; while it's definitely not an exciting channel, I find it far more beneficial to watch and listen to that THE Weather Channel, but that's just me.

Either way, I really like my HD offering off of my antenna; all but one of my regular channels broadcasts in HD at some time during the week.
The Weather Channel has become a wasteland of enhanced weather "specials", most hosted by mr. superlative Jim Cantore. They were better when they stuck to just weather reporting and analysis instead of trying to make it a soap.
wvcaver
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Re: heh

i used to watch them all the time!
now i would rather get my weather off of the internet!

Fox McCloud
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yep; I completely agree; heck, I can remember when they didn't even have a weather man, or anyone talking on the channel; it was just a 24/7 radar view with elevator music.

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said by Fox McCloud See Profile :

yep; I completely agree; heck, I can remember when they didn't even have a weather man, or anyone talking on the channel; it was just a 24/7 radar view with elevator music.
Ditto now everything I seem to turn it on it's some weather show or it seems like a news reporting channel.

I kid you not I used to have it turned to the channel 24/7
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You are not the only one.
Time4aNAP
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Ironically, TWC's weather.com website is as good as TWC on cable is bad.
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I don't see where you come up with 20 hours per month. The FCC web site says 3 hours per week of core programing. Is the web site wrong?

»www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/childtv.html

In my area, no one has pulled the plug on local weather channel or the channel dedicated to a camera directed on the local airport.
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Oh good, great idea, kids need to watch MORE television
riblet

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Naples, FL
They already do it here (multiple subchannels) but the picture quality still beats the snot out of what Comcast squirts through their coax around here. And this is not a major market...

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Same here and I hate it. Our ABC station has several subchannels, one a radar and the other "the CW". I wish they would at least turn off the radar (if there is no bad weather) during prime time ABC shows like they do in Dallas.

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I watch HDTV over the air for free on my 2005 XP Media Center PC and I often record the goodies to an exteral USB hard drive.
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Re: Compression

IIRC, ATSC uses MPEG2 compression, and DirecTV uses MPEG4. Cable can vary with the provider. IME MPEG2 gives a better picture than MPEG4. On paper, MPEG4 seems capable of providing a better overall picture. However in practice it seems to be used mostly to conserve bandwidth.
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