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Topmounter
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join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO
reply to wifi4milez
Re: Interesting

It's not hard at all to identify an infected machine.

It is nice to see an ISP actually be responsible and try to clean up their network, not to mention the Internet in general.


Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
reply to Fatal Vector
That's why there is 1 year contract exists just to piss those customers off even more.
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

reply to Fatal Vector
said by Fatal Vector See Profile :

They are being paid for access. To me, that means unrestricted access.
Every ISP I've ever seen has had a AUP and/or TOS that spells out what a user can, or in most cases can't do with the account. Almost every time there are two provisions, one that says a user's activities can not have a detrimental affect on the network and the other is that the policy may be changed without notice. You are NOT paying for unrestricted access. Heck, ISPs don't even get unrestricted access. They can and have been cut off from their upstream providers for violating policies.

I'm not saying it's right and that ISPs should just arbitrarily block a service just because it can be used for something illegitimate. I'm just saying that it is within their powers to do so.
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Fatal Vector

join:2005-11-26

reply to cdru


Exactly right. YOU are PAYING them for the unrestricted use of their access network. Some here seem to use the idea of it being their network to justify any abuse of their customers, with the attitude that "they can do whatever they want. It's THEIR network".

They are being paid for access. To me, that means unrestricted access. Of course, if they crap on their customers in this manner, their customers will crap on them by taking business elsewhere, or, getting around their restrictions.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000
reply to goodwithbad
Re: sounds about right

You must work in marketing or sales.


cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

reply to blueeyesm
Re: Interesting

said by blueeyesm See Profile :

Or worse,.. state in their AUP that bittorrent usage is not allowed. Then, set their network to detect bittorrent traffic (used legitimately), deem it against their policy, and limit the user to pages on their site about bittorrent use. Then, ask for the user to check the AUP, and have them call tech support to release their account once bittorrent traffic has ceased.
Not that I would condone such actions, but if an ISP did that it would be perfectly within their rights in almost all circumstances. You are paying to use THEIR network. If THEY don't want something on THEIR network, it's THEIR choice, not yours. The extent of what you can do is find another provider.
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blueeyesm

join:2003-09-05
Waterloo, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed

reply to wifi4milez
Or worse,.. state in their AUP that bittorrent usage is not allowed. Then, set their network to detect bittorrent traffic (used legitimately), deem it against their policy, and limit the user to pages on their site about bittorrent use. Then, ask for the user to check the AUP, and have them call tech support to release their account once bittorrent traffic has ceased.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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reply to goodwithbad
Assuming they can correctly identify "infected" machines, I think this idea is good. My main (only) concern would be that the ISP would somehow flag a "normal" PC as infected and then quarantine it.
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goodwithbad

@pacbell.net
sounds about right

just upgrade to handle the traffic
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