dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| FTTN, not FTTH
Seems to me they've made it pretty clear they're primarily going to rely on FTTN for the most part. May not be the bazillion megabytes BBR posters claim is necessary, but you're still looking at up to 24M if and when they go ADSL2+, and that's a hell of a lot faster than the 1.5M they offer from most of their remote DSLAMs now.
The way I understand it, their FTTH deployments have been mostly with new construction where the developer contracted with Qwest from the beginning.
They may not have announced details about network upgrades, but you can bet it's happening behind the scenes- people aren't going to be satisfied with 1.5M from their remote DSLAMs for long.
With Verizon only getting 10% penetration for FIOS the first year and 15% after that, it'll be a while before there's a nationwide effort to deliver FTTH. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| FTTN; Fiber To The Node.
FTTH; Fiber To The Hub.
FTTP; Fiber To The Premise.
FTTC; Fiber To The Curb.
FIOS; COMING TO MY HOUSE.
»/showpic/dimag···7&sort=v |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| said by batterup  :FTTN; Fiber To The Node. FTTH; Fiber To The Hub. FTTP; Fiber To The Premise. FTTC; Fiber To The Curb. FIOS; COMING TO MY HOUSE. » /showpic/dimag···7&sort=v Sorry duder, but you might want to have a clue what you're talking about before trying to correct others.
FTTH: Fiber To The Home; the more commonly used equivalent of FTTP: Fiber To The Premise.
FTTN: Fiber To The Neighborhood and Fiber To The Node used interchangably and having the same meaning. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by dynodb :said by batterup :FTTN; Fiber To The Node. FTTH; Fiber To The Hub. FTTP; Fiber To The Premise. FTTC; Fiber To The Curb. FIOS; COMING TO MY HOUSE. » /showpic/dimag···7&sort=v Sorry duder, but you might want to have a clue what you're talking about before trying to correct others. FTTH: Fiber To The Home; the more commonly used equivalent of FTTP: Fiber To The Premise. FTTN: Fiber To The Neighborhood and Fiber To The Node used interchangably and having the same meaning. I have been waiting for that.
»www.cel.com/pdf/glossary/opticacronyms.pdf
Read it a weep.
quote:
FTTH fiber to the hub
If you see it on the interweb you know it is true. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| ROFLMAO, Junior, I don't care what that one website by one company says- FTTH refers to Fiber To The Home, and that's how 99.9999% of those who use the term understand it.
"Fiber To The Hub" makes little sense since broadband isn't deployed from anything commonly referred to as a "hub". |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by dynodb :ROFLMAO, Junior, I don't care what that one website by one company says- FTTH refers to Fiber To The Home, and that's how 99.9999% of those who use the term understand it. "Fiber To The Hub" makes little sense since broadband isn't deployed from anything commonly referred to as a "hub". Junior?? I was building TPC long before you were a gleam in your father's eye. I might be your father. Was your mother ever in Bangkok? |
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fiostech20
@verizon.net
| reply to dynodb
said by dynodb :ROFLMAO, Junior, I don't care what that one website by one company says- FTTH refers to Fiber To The Home, and that's how 99.9999% of those who use the term understand it. "Fiber To The Hub" makes little sense since broadband isn't deployed from anything commonly referred to as a "hub". Duder, thanks for telling us all how this guy is wrong, gee and to think that I have been going to the fiber "hub" to run my x-connect before going to the premises. I'm pissed, I'm going to have to bitch at someone because now I don't know what to call it.;) |
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fiberbaby
@verizon.net
| reply to dynodb
said by dynodb :ROFLMAO, Junior, I don't care what that one website by one company says- FTTH refers to Fiber To The Home, and that's how 99.9999% of those who use the term understand it. "Fiber To The Hub" makes little sense since broadband isn't deployed from anything commonly referred to as a "hub". Dude, batterup is 100% right, last I checked I stop at the fiber "hub" everytime I need to run my x-connect for a new customer. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| said by fiberbaby :said by dynodb :ROFLMAO, Junior, I don't care what that one website by one company says- FTTH refers to Fiber To The Home, and that's how 99.9999% of those who use the term understand it. "Fiber To The Hub" makes little sense since broadband isn't deployed from anything commonly referred to as a "hub". Dude, batterup is 100% right, last I checked I stop at the fiber "hub" everytime I need to run my x-connect for a new customer. That you have to run a cross connect at a fiber "hub" is meaningless- the industry uses FTTH to refer to fiber to the home. "fiber to the hub" is meaningless- a fiber distribution box or SLC could be anywhere- at the demarc (FTTH), at the curb (FTTH), at the node (FTTN), etc. "Fiber to the hub" is a non-descriptive term unused in relation to broadband service. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by dynodb : the industry uses FTTH to refer to fiber to the home. A business in not a home, a sewer treatment plant is not a home, they are premises though. FTTHome is a very bad term for FTTPremis. |
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Alakar
Facts do not cease to exist when ignored
join:2001-03-23
Milwaukee, WI
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| I haven't got a dog in this fight, however if you do a Google search on "FTTH" there is not a single reference to "Fiber To The Hub" on any page returned on at least the first 4 pages. I didn't search any farther then that, but on those first 4 pages are sites from the US, Europe, Japan and China and all of them refer to "FTTH" as "Fiber To The Home".
»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FT···e+Search
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to batterup
said by batterup :said by dynodb : the industry uses FTTH to refer to fiber to the home. A business in not a home, a sewer treatment plant is not a home, they are premises though. FTTHome is a very bad term for FTTPremis. Perhaps the time will come that FTTP takes the place of FTTH as the term used to delivering fiber to a user building... but that time is not yet here, with the possible exception of a few datacom insider types.
FTTP probably is a better term for the reason you gave, but FTTH as "fiber to the hub" is an equally bad if not worse term- both because nearly everyone interprets FTTH as "fiber to the home", but also since it doesn't describe where the fiber terminates in relation to the user, other than as a "hub", which is usually refers to a dumb splitter instead of a switch, node or router. FTTC is the traditional term, and a better one IMO. |
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viperlmw
Premium
join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
1 edit | Isn't hub a term used more in cable than telephony? I've never heard of a telco remote terminal (RT) called a hub, but aren't there hubs in cable distribution systems?
Edit: Nortel makes a remote switching unit that they call a HUB, for their DMS line of class 5 switches. Doesn't apply here, but am trying to be complete. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to dynodb
said by dynodb :Seems to me they've made it pretty clear they're primarily going to rely on FTTN for the most part. May not be the bazillion megabytes BBR posters claim is necessary, but you're still looking at up to 24M if and when they go ADSL2+, and that's a hell of a lot faster than the 1.5M they offer from most of their remote DSLAMs now. And how much of that 24M will anyone see in the real world? You happy on ATT NextGen(Uverse) DSL, 6/1, wonderful isnt it? |
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