Re: West Virginia in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18266447 en Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:51:42 EDT Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:51:42 EDT Re: West Virginia http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18267204 batterup : Before divesture Ma Bell was long distance and the ILEC and every thing else. A company operating with its own funds. Universal service at an affordable price.

Of course it is much better now just as MCI/WorldCom promised.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18267204 Wed, 02 May 2007 00:43:01 EDT Re: West Virginia http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18266447 fgoldstein :
said by batterup See Profile :

Before divestiture The Phone Company didn't use the USF.
Uh, sure it did. Just not as an explicit federal tax.

Before divestiture, Ma Bell and the Independents had a kludgey system called Separations and Settlements, in which toll revenues were divided between AT&T Long Lines and the LECs at either end of a call based upon a complex set of formulas. The last ones used were called the Ozark Plan, which based the LECs' share upon relative investment in plant. Plus it weighted interstate calls at (eventually) about 3.2 times a local call, when determining what share of the local loop's usage was interstate. That share (PIU) times the multiple (SPF) was compared with the local usage, and the LD share of common, fixed costs was covered out of toll revenues. The bottom line was that a high-cost rural telco could collect more than 100% of the toll charge, just for its end of the call.

This didn't work with LD competition so the system of Switched Access Charges was ordered as a replacement. Divestiture happened to occur around then, so the effective date was set to be the same. That was actually a coincidence.

TA96 says that subsidies (USF) are supposed to be explicit and portable, but that's often honored in the breach.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18266447 Tue, 01 May 2007 22:14:50 EDT Re: West Virginia http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18263040 batterup :
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said by batterup See Profile :

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On the other hand, many areas of WV have the triple whammy going against them: low population density, remarkably aged infrastructure and low per capita income. A red-liner's paradise.
They all can get POTS at an affordable price. How did the government manage that?
That rural telephone program.
Before divestiture The Phone Company didn't use the USF.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18263040 Tue, 01 May 2007 12:01:42 EDT Re: West Virginia http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18263018 TScheisskopf :
said by batterup See Profile :

said by TScheisskopf See Profile :



On the other hand, many areas of WV have the triple whammy going against them: low population density, remarkably aged infrastructure and low per capita income. A red-liner's paradise.
They all can get POTS at an affordable price. How did the government manage that?
That rural telephone program.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18263018 Tue, 01 May 2007 11:57:42 EDT Re: West Virginia http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18263009 batterup :
said by TScheisskopf See Profile :



On the other hand, many areas of WV have the triple whammy going against them: low population density, remarkably aged infrastructure and low per capita income. A red-liner's paradise.
They all can get POTS at an affordable price. How did the government manage that? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18263009 Tue, 01 May 2007 11:55:34 EDT Re: West Virginia http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18262756 TScheisskopf :
said by pinot noir6 See Profile :

West Virginia is probably a difficult state to wire, with its mountainous terrain. Wireless would probably be even harder.
Amazingly, they have a modern convenience called "Telephone Poles" that border most of the roads there. These modern conveniences have been scientifically shown to be very effective when deploying telecommunications infrastructure upgrades.

On the other hand, many areas of WV have the triple whammy going against them: low population density, remarkably aged infrastructure and low per capita income. A red-liner's paradise.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18262756 Tue, 01 May 2007 11:02:41 EDT West Virginia http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18262373 pinot noir6 : West Virginia is probably a difficult state to wire, with its mountainous terrain. Wireless would probably be even harder.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18262373 Tue, 01 May 2007 09:48:20 EDT