| Size does not matter.. I want my CNN to be HDTV! |
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| I want that and decent quality. Dishnetworks HD looks better then Directv's , and Comcasts looks as good as Dishnetworks , but they lack good channels.
Directv's HD on a nice screen looks like up scanned dvd's to me. Good but not great.
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| Funny...how the survey didn't include FiOS.... |
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cacoPremium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK | Fios doesn't have enough video subs yet alone HD subs to be a factor. Maybe by 2020!
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| What does the size of the install base have too do about anything? The survey and subsequent Comcast claims is simply their HD feed is the best. The survey was conducted by a third party and they simply compared Comcast to SAT TV and then proclaim they have the best HD period. Despite a small install base due to the fact that FIOS is still a very new offering...Comcast should have included FIOS in the comparison. To simply ignore the FTTH segment altogether is very suspect to me. |
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| Lets see it compared to over the air which isn't compressed. In addition, all of these sat and cable providers change the compression and bit stream rate for their channels. So one channel that may look great one day may not look so good the next, but then look good the following. |
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 PlaceboPremium
join:2005-12-14
Huntley, IL | reply to BosstonesOwn
I was a Comcast HD customer from 2003 to 2006. I've had DishNetwork for about 8 months now--I think the picture quality of the two is similar. I love that I have more than twice as many HD channels, though Comcast has Golf Channel HD and DishNetwork doesn't...
More important to me is the fact that that DishNetwork's HD DVR (Vip 622) is vastly superior to the Comcast offering (though I did pay $200 for it!).
I miss my cable internet--I bundled the Dish with ATT DSL. I'm paying $40 less per month--sadly, I'm contemplating an internet-only account with Comcast.
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB | reply to caco
IPTV will be catching or exceeding cable/sat in terms of HD channels by 2009, mark my words. |
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1 edit | reply to SilenceGold
CNN is due out in September in HD.
Neal |
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Evanston, IL | reply to BosstonesOwn
but they lack good channels. Good quality is no good without good content.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to patmondor
said by patmondor:What does the size of the install base have too do about anything? The survey and subsequent Comcast claims is simply their HD feed is the best. .. it's called a "sample rate." I'm assuming you don't know much about survey samples and ratings and how they are assembled, right? To sample from a based on 30 million vs a few thousand, and your survey sample is flawed and your stats mean nothing - unless your are a politician, then that's another conversation.
There's nothing suspect at all.
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Or whenever they want to wipe cable under the rug. FIOS could crush cable at the flick of a switch. |
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cacoPremium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK | reply to SquareSlinky
Re: Size does not matter.. Actually I've heard Fios Kills cable techs by the hundreds. And if HE were here, he'd consume Comcast with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.
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| Fios will hit Cable with his level 98 + 200 Cryogenic Staff and deal 90000000 hit point damage to cable !
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Arnold, MD | reply to reub2000
Likewise, what good is content if the quality is poor. |
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They're all compressed - uncompressed 1080i at around 29.97 frames per second is around 1.45 Gigabits per second - it never gets transmitted that way!
DTV channels are allocated around 19 Megabits per second. DTV stations usually look better than satellite or cable because they generally have more bandwidth.
Direct and Dish compress HD to around 6 Mbits with Dish generally looking a little better.
Cable is all over the place and looks good or bad depending on what they've done to the signal. |
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said by SquareSlinky:Or whenever they want to wipe cable under the rug. FIOS could crush cable at the flick of a switch. Really? Do we just take your word or...?
Do you really think Cable can't compete? |
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KenAF
join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA | reply to SilenceGold
Stolen from AVS Forum...
February '07 Comparison from the D*HD-Lite vs E*HD Screenshot thread. said by Clarence :
Robots HD Comcast: quote:
File Size Processed: 7.09 GB, Play Time: 01h:30m:42s
1920 x 1080, 29.97 fps (24.93 fps Telecine), 25.00 Mbps (10.46 Mbps Average).
Average Video Quality: 51.23 KB/Frame, 0.20 Bits/Pixel.
Robots HD DirecTV: quote:
File Size Processed: 6.10 GB, Play Time: 01h:29m:57s
1280 x 1088, 29.97 fps (24.68 fps Telecine), 65.00 Mbps (9.02 Mbps Average).
Average Video Quality: 44.60 KB/Frame, 0.26 Bits/Pixel.
So how much difference does that really make?
said by Clarence :
For comparison, I found the same frame from my HD cable:
Here's an unresized 256x256 PNG crop from each of the sources...
Comcast:
DirecTV:
If you can't see the difference, you need your eyes checked. 
As of end 2006, Comcast said 90% of its cable systems were modern 750-860Mhz systems. If live in an area served by the other 10%, you may be stuck with less quality+quantity. Comcast is now working to upgrade those service areas, though. |
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fibreguy....you assume to much. I do know about sample rates and sample sizes, of and let me impress...margin of error. C'mon! I also know the biases inherent in surveys as well. First, even though Comcast didn't conduct the survey it still might have been sponsored by Comcast....hummmm. Second, it was a side-by-side comparison...the article states they had a setup with three feeds and said...which one is best? We don't know the size of their sample (they didn't put the number in there), but with a side-by-side comparison...it can't be too large. My initial disagreement was based on another comment is that the reason FIOS was not included in this comparison is because the install base for the technology was "too small." My answer to that was so what! This is simply an opinion based survey...of "which HD picture looks best." Not a "what HD picture looks best with an install base of said technology exceeding 1 million." Even though there are a limited number of FIOS TV customers...it seems a large number of those users, who are former Comcast and SAT customers say that FIOS is a better HD picture than the other providers. The survey seems to have samples from not only cable or sat users...but anyone in general. Thus, the whole population of the US could have been used as the sample size. What I'm simply saying is that FIOS is a technology that could have been part of the comparison, but it was ignored. So let's recap....Comcast is pushing the results of a survey where competing HD technology is left out...and then crowns itself as the best HD provider. You don't see anything suspect in that? |
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