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Re: Junk fax laws said by gatorkram:The internet is a public place, You just pretty much crushed their defense 
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Winterville, NC
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| said by Julio:said by gatorkram:The internet is a public place, You just pretty much crushed their defense Just because you have a site on the public internet, doesn't mean you want millions of people coming to your site. Even worse if they are only coming to be vindictive.
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JulioBachatero y Que?Premium
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Brooklyn, NY
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said by gatorkram:said by Julio:said by gatorkram:The internet is a public place, You just pretty much crushed their defense Just because you have a site on the public internet, doesn't mean you want millions of people coming to your site. Even worse if they are only coming to be vindictive. Don't want people to come? Don't put it online.
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
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said by Necronomikro:If you don't want millions coming to your site, then don't make it public. Have a home page that is nothing but a login screen, with the bare bones code being sent. Problem solved. Just because a site is on a public network, doesn't mean it's a known address, and that you want everyone and their brother to know about it. Much like someones phone number being unlisted. It's still on the public phone network, and anyone who knows the number can call.
As for having to adapt my site so people don't abuse it like in this example. What a bunch of crap. Why should I have to design my website in any manner, than how I want to design it. If I don't want my url given out, it should be my right.
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
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said by Julio:Don't want people to come? Don't put it online. I want people to come, but only the people I want to know about it. I fail to understand how people don't understand.
If it's my website, and my url, and my name that I am paying for, I should be able to control who uses it, and how.
If I own www.somewebsite.com and I don't want you using it, then I should be able to sue you if you do.
In this example, I am just talking about the url itself, not the website it might link to.
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said by gatorkram:Just because a site is on a public network, doesn't mean it's a known address, and that you want everyone and their brother to know about it. Much like someones phone number being unlisted. It's still on the public phone network, and anyone who knows the number can call. As for having to adapt my site so people don't abuse it like in this example. What a bunch of crap. Why should I have to design my website in any manner, than how I want to design it. If I don't want my url given out, it should be my right. It's plain to see you are not ready to play on the Internet. So why don't you hide your website, that you don't want anyone to visit anyway, on the LAN in your bomb shelter, accessible only to you, and your closest associates, and close the time-locked bomb-proof door behind you... |
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join:2001-03-15
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said by gatorkram:If I own www.somewebsite.com and I don't want you using it, then I should be able to sue you if you do. 1. When you register a domain name, such as www.somewebsite.com, you technically do NOT own it. You are paying for the rights to use that domain which is why you have to renew periodically.
2. Your argument that you should be able to sue someone for looking at something you don't want them to look at when it is posted on a public forum will hold exactly ZERO muster in court. Good luck suing anyone. Once you put something that's publicly accessible out there, without protections like passwords, you give up the right to go after people for looking at it without your permission.
You need to learn how things work on the internet and drop the childish sue-happy attitude...
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join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
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said by gatorkram:... If it's my website, and my url, and my name that I am paying for, I should be able to control who uses it, and how. ... You ARE able... theoretically. It depends on your technical skills, what platform/software your site uses, etc.
You have to TAKE control, though. You can't just leave the door wide open and then complain when people pop in to have a look around. That's not how it works.
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If you don't want to play with open public networks and take the necessary precautions to keep EVERYONE from accessing it (ridiculous, if you ask me, but, whatever), then don't play with it at all. I, for one, would love to get extra traffic, but, oh well. |
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Routing. Drop all packets not from IP address. Problem solved, voila! now only you, and whoever you MANUALLY add can access it. No, I will not even try to get into the technical aspects of it.
As for cingular: they're a public site, and they want customers to be able to access it, they should know that linking is NOT copyrightable: all it is is basically an address. ZOMG YOU CANNOT POST THE NAME, ADDRESS, OR PHONE NUMBER TO MY COMPANY. NEVERMIND THAT I WANT TO STAY IN BUSINESS, AND THE INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE!
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So you want people to be sued from visiting your website if you don't want them to? If you don't want people to visit your web site password protect it - simple!
I know its the American way to sue anyone for pretty much anything, but suing someone for visiting your website when you don't want them to is completely stupid. What happens if they come across your website by mistake. For example if someone wants to go to a website but anciently misspelled it. Then that's it, you'll be sued!
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join:2001-02-26
CWCville USA | reply to gatorkram
HAHAHA! Wow... I really dont know what to say... In this case it is OBVIOUS that they want everyone to know about their site, otherwise they wouldnt A: have it as such an obvious url, and B: spend millions of dollars to have it beamed into millions and millions of homes every day by way of T.V. adverts. Besides that, if you dont want people seeing your site, put a password on it. Only an utter idiot would claim that they have a right to stop others from linking to them (hotlinking on the otherhand is definitely a no-no). |
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
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| said by james:HAHAHA! Wow... I really dont know what to say... In this case it is OBVIOUS that they want everyone to know about their site, otherwise they wouldnt A: have it as such an obvious url, and B: spend millions of dollars to have it beamed into millions and millions of homes every day by way of T.V. adverts. Besides that, if you dont want people seeing your site, put a password on it. Only an utter idiot would claim that they have a right to stop others from linking to them (hotlinking on the otherhand is definitely a no-no). Misused bandwidth is misused bandwidth, why is hot linking so evil then?
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