BonezX
Basement Dweller
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join:2004-04-13
Canada
1 edit | so....
does anyone else see something wrong with this picture ?
removing the right of it's citizens to privacy and removing their right to seek damages from the companies responsible for giving out their personal information.
i see lots of companies, and less and less actual "people" involved.
(side note what's next, instead of collecting taxes, using CC numbers and withdrawing money from peoples accounts when it's needed ?) |
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nutcr0cker
join:2003-04-02
Chandler, AZ
| Hmmm... so immunity for the crooks that treat our privacy like their public data. but nothing for small businesses ruined by lawsuits. Maybe Roy L. Pearson, Jr can sue the fellow republiCONS for another 65 billion »www.overlawyered.com/2007/04/roy···_mi.html |
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pinot noir6
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join:2007-04-23
Columbus, OH
1 edit | reply to BonezX
said by BonezX  :does anyone else see something wrong with this picture ? removing the right of it's citizens to privacy... Yes indeed, I see something wrong with this picture!
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"
Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father.
NOTES
In 1755 (Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, Tue, Nov 11, 1755), Franklin wrote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
This phrasing was also the motto in Historical Review of Pennsylvania, attributed to Franklin
It's important to note that this sentiment, with many variations, was much used in the Revolutionary period by Franklin and others. |
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anicetoemma
Naruto
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join:2005-09-30
Chicago, IL
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| It will be a glorious day when Bush goes down for this, although we all know he won't. There is always some standup guy to take the blame for all this, even though we know it too be BS.
The NSA could not get away with something like this without the approval of the President, so the President should be the one too blame. I'm not trying to take away the blame from the telcos, they know better than to abide by whatever the government wants...look at Google as an example. AT&T and any other telco that assisted with the datamining should definitely be hauled into court, but then again Bush owns the Supreme Court so where will that get us!?
For the People and by the People, yeah right, what a load of crap. We lost this nation long ago when we let jackasses like Bush convince us we needed more protection. Doesn't help with all these Protesters whining about every little piece of BS. These are the things that are eating away at our liberties, everyone wants their solutions to be enacted as law. What happened to the old die hard reap what you sow attitude America use to have? Now it seems we are breeding a bunch of pussys that need laws to protect them. We have turned into a bunch of f***ing a**holes, like the Brits! ;p |
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Blackened
Your Freedom Fries Are Stale
join:2003-09-29
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Ok so let me get this straight. Constitution is made which includes a Fourth Amendment on search and seizure. Consequently, later, a FISA bill passes into law, which gives orders on the legal process of wiretapping Americans or foreign individuals who are here, explicitly related to terrorism. Executive branch gives Legislative branch (and the American people) the finger for inquiries into breaking the law on illegally spying on Americans. Then Executive branch, not being able to pass laws by itself, goes to Legislative branch asking them to pass laws making the Legislative branch's ability of oversight null, despite said finger given numerous times to Legislative branch's inquiries to such illegal acts.
The mere fact that Dubya's inexorably trying to cover the asses of AT&T and other telcos/companies involved in this, as well as himself and his own cohorts, is nothing less than an admission of guilt for breaking the law by illegally spying on Americans; no short of treason. This goes with the large laundry list of other acts which are impeachable offenses that he's committed. With respect to the topic at hand, I'll stick to this one, which is, by itself, an example of an Executive Branch that's gone way too power hungry. |
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Rocketbob
join:2006-06-08
Stillman Valley, IL | reply to anicetoemma
I couldn't have said it better. Remember Bush said the constitution was just a GD piece of paper! |
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN | reply to BonezX
I see something wrong, I wish congress would just go ahead and impeach bush and cheney and get them out of office before they can cause more damage. These 2 clowns remind me of Quickdraw McGraw and Baba Looey. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| I would love nothing more than to see Bozo the clown and Sideshow Bob get impeached, BUT, look at who's next in line to take the place of them... Nutt-job Nancy.
At this point, with Dems in control of the congress, and a pub in the white house, things are pretty much where they should be.. slowed. It's going to be hard for either side to cause the people any further damage.
I wonder.. is there a fog of war clouding DC? Do these idiots not realize they work for us, and not themselves? Amazing how they go through elections promising the world and when they get to office they completely forget who employs them.
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rahlquist
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join:2001-10-30
Villa Rica, GA
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said by BonezX :does anyone else see something wrong with this picture ? (side note what's next, instead of collecting taxes, using CC numbers and withdrawing money from peoples accounts when it's needed ?) And what would be so different from this than them withdrawing your biological assets via a draft?
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| said by rahlquist :And what would be so different from this than them withdrawing your biological assets via a draft? <sarcasm>
Boy, it is a good thing the Republicans control Congress, so that crazy Democrat who keeps introducing a bill to reinstate the draft keeps getting shot down!
</sarcasm>
Oh, never mind...
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bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA | reply to pinot noir6
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." - Patrick Henry |
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ph03n1x
join:2003-02-15
Sanford, FL
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said by pinot noir6 :said by BonezX :"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father. I hate to nitpick, but I see this all the time and I take issue with two things: 1. The quote is "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" 2. This statement was made by a diplomat named Richard Jackson and appeared in several works _published_ by Benjamin Franklin. |
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
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Search and seasure was never meant to include observe-for-terrorist-intentions just like hab corp didnt include a no-secretly-kidnap-for-foreign-torture clause. If the founding fathers and lawmakers of yesteryear really intended you to be free from corporate-wiretapping-requested-by-nazi-feds why didn they add that to the law! HAH! take that mr pinko-liberal-commy.
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Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | reply to fiberguy
God forbid that idiot gets another supreme court pick. Seeing how he picks his Fed prosecutors from a fourth tier law school.
The court is ruined for the next 20-40 years. |
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