pinot noir6
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join:2007-04-23
Columbus, OH
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Re: so....
said by BonezX  :does anyone else see something wrong with this picture ? removing the right of it's citizens to privacy... Yes indeed, I see something wrong with this picture!
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"
Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father.
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In 1755 (Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, Tue, Nov 11, 1755), Franklin wrote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
This phrasing was also the motto in Historical Review of Pennsylvania, attributed to Franklin
It's important to note that this sentiment, with many variations, was much used in the Revolutionary period by Franklin and others. |
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anicetoemma
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join:2005-09-30
Chicago, IL
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| It will be a glorious day when Bush goes down for this, although we all know he won't. There is always some standup guy to take the blame for all this, even though we know it too be BS.
The NSA could not get away with something like this without the approval of the President, so the President should be the one too blame. I'm not trying to take away the blame from the telcos, they know better than to abide by whatever the government wants...look at Google as an example. AT&T and any other telco that assisted with the datamining should definitely be hauled into court, but then again Bush owns the Supreme Court so where will that get us!?
For the People and by the People, yeah right, what a load of crap. We lost this nation long ago when we let jackasses like Bush convince us we needed more protection. Doesn't help with all these Protesters whining about every little piece of BS. These are the things that are eating away at our liberties, everyone wants their solutions to be enacted as law. What happened to the old die hard reap what you sow attitude America use to have? Now it seems we are breeding a bunch of pussys that need laws to protect them. We have turned into a bunch of f***ing a**holes, like the Brits! ;p |
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Rocketbob
join:2006-06-08
Stillman Valley, IL | I couldn't have said it better. Remember Bush said the constitution was just a GD piece of paper! |
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bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA | reply to pinot noir6
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." - Patrick Henry |
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ph03n1x
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Sanford, FL
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said by pinot noir6 :said by BonezX :"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father. I hate to nitpick, but I see this all the time and I take issue with two things: 1. The quote is "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" 2. This statement was made by a diplomat named Richard Jackson and appeared in several works _published_ by Benjamin Franklin. |
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