quetwo
That VoIP Guy
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Re: Corps
Corporations are not afforded Constitutional rights, however, those working for the corporation do. If they are working under the direction of the corporation, they are not covered. |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
1 edit | Corporations don't have free speech rights? That would be news to the US Supreme Court, which back in the '80's invalidated state laws requiring utility companies to include consumer group propaganda as bill inserts in their monthly statements. At that time, the Court said that such inclusion violated the free speech rights of the utilities.
calvoiper
Edit update: The case citation is PACIFIC GAS & ELEC. CO. v. PUBLIC UTIL. COMM'N, 475 U.S. 1 (1986).
Besides, the New York Times is a corporation. Are we really going to listen to arguments that the NYT doesn't have free speech rights?
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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Stepford, CA
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| said by calvoiper  :Corporations don't have free speech rights? That would be news to the US Supreme Court, which back in the '80's invalidated state laws requiring utility companies to include consumer group propaganda as bill inserts in their monthly statements. At that time, the Court said that such inclusion violated the free speech rights of the utilities. Corporations were afforded personhood loooooooooooooooooong before the PGE case. Try Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad (1886). The case in and of itself was not about corporate personhood per se, but rather, it was about taxes. But based on the decision written by the Supremes that included the 14th Amendment, personhood was has been attributed to corporations ever since.
In short, the same rights and privileges flesh and blood human beings have are the same rights corporations also enjoy since the corporation is treated as if it were a living, breathing person.
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major marco
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said by quetwo :Corporations are not afforded Constitutional rights, however, those working for the corporation do. If they are working under the direction of the corporation, they are not covered. Not.
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calvoiper
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Belvedere Tiburon, CA
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Not entirely true. It's easier to get a death penalty (dissolution order) against a corporation than it is a person.
Corporations also have fewer rights in other areas. For instance, they are generally not afforded the right to avoid self-incrimination in criminal proceedings.
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