RayWPremium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
kudos:1 | Where were all these privacy people in the 80's? My sister worked for the FBI as a clerk back in the late 70's and early 80's. One of her regular tasks was to go to the phone company with generic John Doe warrants and copy a bunch of records (I THINK it was Xerox, never asked, don't want to know).
The only difference between then and now is that there are a lot more records to copy but they can copy them a lot faster and in more detail. Oh, and one other thing, George Bush Jr. is president now, a big factor in the media coverage.
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| The major difference between then and now is that she had warrants, they didn't. They just said "pretty please" and then mentioned national security.
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RayWPremium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
kudos:1 | said by Indymike:The major difference between then and now is that she had warrants, they didn't. They just said "pretty please" and then mentioned national security. Big difference. Generic John Doe? They still use those, and it is almost the same as no warrant since they are just mass signed by a judge.
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| But at least a Judge has to rubber-stamp them. The point being that probable cause is shown. |
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RayWPremium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
kudos:1 | said by Indymike:But at least a Judge has to rubber-stamp them. The point being that probable cause is shown. Probable cause? Rubber stamp? You are dreaming if you think a stack of rubber stamped John Does shows probable cause, otherwise they would not be rubber stamped. Sure, they get real warrants when they have probable cause, but most rubber stamped John Does are what are used when they go fishing.
No, what this 'news' article is about has been going on for a long time, it is just politics that is making a fuss. Too bad this hoop-la did not reach this proportion back in the 90's (I can not really speak of before the 90's since I did not pay attention then). What we see today is nothing more than building on what other eras has allowed to happen.
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