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| Re: How about because no one cares True, Bruce is definitely one with an 'agenda' (one that I find not-without-foundation) but your comment is outside the point. Traditional media is indeed falling apart. There just doesn't seem to be any actual research, much less investigation, of sources.
I guess it comes down to how these articles are written-up. Is there any disclosure that the sources are funded by the interested parties? If not, absolutely inexcusable. If that's the case, the media are simply whores for passing on thinly-guised advertising.
If they are putting out the arguments, balancing them with opposing viewpoints, and disclosing the funding and organization, then there's certainly no problem with reporting those stories.
It's not about including stories people are interested in but doing so in a clear, balanced, and responsible manner. KM -- Don't Lie - Be Kind - Realize your Potential | |
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| Re: How about because no one cares said by KoolMoe :Traditional media is indeed falling apart. There just doesn't seem to be any actual research, much less investigation, of sources. I guess it comes down to how these articles are written-up. Is there any disclosure that the sources are funded by the interested parties? If not, absolutely inexcusable. If that's the case, the media are simply whores for passing on thinly-guised advertising. It's not about including stories people are interested in but doing so in a clear, balanced, and responsible manner. KM The press has almost never done what you claim they should do. From the earliest days of "yellow journalism", the press has always been nothing but a platform for advertisers and political parties. When they report the "truth", it is merely an accident. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page | |
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| Re: How about because no one cares said by TKJunkMail :The press has almost never done what you claim they should do. From the earliest days of "yellow journalism", the press has always been nothing but a platform for advertisers and political parties. When they report the "truth", it is merely an accident. This is an interesting program that examines the issue:
»www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newswar/
It has some "political" context but I would suspect that there is enough blame to go around regardless of party...
Four hours, but it delves quite deeply into the reasons for the current situation. -- A is A | |
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| said by TKJunkMail :The press has almost never done what you claim they should do. From the earliest days of "yellow journalism", the press has always been nothing but a platform for advertisers and political parties. When they report the "truth", it is merely an accident. There's a difference between reporting with an agenda and not bothering to do basic research. That is, if you're going to quote a source, for whatever reason, one should at least do a basic check on the veracity of the source's information (lest you end up with an embarrassing factual error that gives your news organization a black eye). -- Everyday, thousands of new cars are delivered to their new owners with poorly-selected radio station presets. | |
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| said by KoolMoe :True, Bruce is definitely one with an 'agenda' (one that I find not-without-foundation) but your comment is outside the point. Traditional media is indeed falling apart. There just doesn't seem to be any actual research, much less investigation, of sources. So, what's Dan Rather doing these days? -- Everyday, thousands of new cars are delivered to their new owners with poorly-selected radio station presets. | |
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| said by nixen :So, what's Dan Rather doing these days? Coincidentally, I just got an 'adazine' in the mail today from Time Warner which highlights his new program on some new cable network that they want me to pay to watch. I wonder if he'll be on U-Verse, too. | |
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| Re: How about because no one cares said by T1 Rocky : And where is the fiber network the telcos promised the government would be built before 2004 back in 1996? They built it. They never promised FTTH. They promised a fiber backbone and we got it. Hence the glut in fiber until just the last year or so. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page | |
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| Re: How about because no one cares Incorrect. The promise made to states like PA was for last mile, 45Mbps fiber connectivity. I have the original order around here somewhere in pdf. Yes, that's ludicrous, but yes, they still got tax write-offs and other incentives essentially for free. | |
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| Re: How about because no one cares said by Karl Bode :Incorrect. The promise made to states like PA was for last mile, 45Mbps fiber connectivity. I have the original order around here somewhere in pdf. Yes, that's ludicrous, but yes, they still got tax write-offs and other incentives essentially for free. Wait, what do you have? Do you have a promise from Verizon to the states? to their customers?
Or is this "promise" actually an order issued by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania PUC? | |
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| said by TKJunkMail :Bruce Kushnick cares because he has had it in for big telco for years and has based his whole business(teletruth.org) Thing is, he's right.
It's all in the spin. When it's reported as "New reform plan will deliver more services, lower prices" it's no wonder it's embraced.... but if the exact same thing was labeled "Major Communications players want to take away your rights, eliminate competition" then people would rail against it.
Sheeple.
The presentation these days seems to be more important then the facts. Unfortunately only the first method seems to be common today in the major media. It's left to certain internet sites to try and balance out the story with some of the latter... -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) | |
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