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ossito16

join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
$20 yea right

What is it going to take to get free public wifi. Why can't they just create a small tax on cigs, restaurant, or hotels?

indyattic
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join:2005-12-13
Schaumburg, IL
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said by ossito16 See Profile :

What is it going to take to get free public wifi. Why can't they just create a small tax on cigs, restaurant, or hotels?
As a taxpayer, I say pay for your own stupid WiFi.

Government has absolutely no incentive to be efficient. One step into the motor vehicle office should make any sane person run screaming from any and all government services.


Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
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join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA

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said by ossito16 See Profile :

What is it going to take to get free public wifi. Why can't they just create a small tax on cigs, restaurant, or hotels?
Why should smokers, diners, or out-of-town guests be expected to pay for your internet?


John Galt
Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
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said by indyattic See Profile :

Government has absolutely no incentive to be efficient. One step into the motor vehicle office should make any sane person run screaming from any and all government services.
We have a stunningly amazing DMV here in Oregon. Fast, friendly, helpful...

You can walk in without an appointment, take your test and be out the door with your new license in 10-15 minutes, pretty much any day of the week.
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ossito16

join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
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said by Steve See Profile :

said by ossito16 See Profile :

What is it going to take to get free public wifi. Why can't they just create a small tax on cigs, restaurant, or hotels?
Why should smokers, diners, or out-of-town guests be expected to pay for your internet?
I am figuring it could be a small tax though, like 5 cents or so. Maybe take a portion of parking fees/tickets. I bet if city starts at $20 and cable/telcos raise their prices then city will raise their price too. I dont believe the public wifi should be operating to gain a profit to give raises to alderman and other city officials.


Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
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join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA

said by ossito16 See Profile :

I am figuring it could be a small tax though, like 5 cents or so. Maybe take a portion of parking fees/tickets. I bet if city starts at $20 and cable/telcos raise their prices then city will raise their price too. I dont believe the public wifi should be operating to gain a profit to give raises to alderman and other city officials.
Why don't they, instead, put a tax on wi-fi users to pay for hotel subsidies?

expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY
reply to John Galt
HHmmmmmm...John Galt...aren't you the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles??

Just kidding, we have a few DMVs here that are impressive, not quite what you'd expect.


John Galt
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said by expert007 See Profile :

HHmmmmmm...John Galt...aren't you the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles??
Well, not in so many words...exactly.



I have to go now. Dagny is calling me. We are taking the car out for a drive...


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nopassstill

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The REAL John Galt wouldn't say that.

said by John Galt See Profile :

said by indyattic See Profile :

Government has absolutely no incentive to be efficient. One step into the motor vehicle office should make any sane person run screaming from any and all government services.
We have a stunningly amazing DMV here in Oregon. Fast, friendly, helpful...

You can walk in without an appointment, take your test and be out the door with your new license in 10-15 minutes, pretty much any day of the week.


PhoenixAZ
Joshua
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join:2004-01-04
Phoenix, AZ

reply to Steve
said by Steve See Profile :

said by ossito16 See Profile :

What is it going to take to get free public wifi. Why can't they just create a small tax on cigs, restaurant, or hotels?
Why should smokers, diners, or out-of-town guests be expected to pay for your internet?
Because I don't care about their money, I just want my internet
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John Galt
Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
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said by nopassstill :

The REAL John Galt wouldn't say that.
Touche!

However, in this case I am only stating the facts. I don't use them myself...

I let Dagny drive.


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marigolds
Gainfully employed, finally
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join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO

reply to Steve
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said by ossito16 See Profile :

What is it going to take to get free public wifi. Why can't they just create a small tax on cigs, restaurant, or hotels?
Why should smokers, diners, or out-of-town guests be expected to pay for your internet?
I agree with Steve here.
You need locus between the tax and the application of the tax.
People are a lot more willing to be taxed when that happens. I can understand hotels; out of town guests are going to like having free wi-fi available throughout town.
Parking tickets make perfect sense too. WiFi would be an enormous benefit for enforcing parking regulations. Imagine the efficiency when the meters actually signal to a PDA map when their time runs out. Combine that with cheap pressure sensors and you can map peak usage of parking in real time and cut down on the number of meter readers. For even more fun, make a "free meter" map available on the public WiFi and in-car GPS signals.
Television franchise fees? Absolutely. Tie the emergency response system and traffic monitoring into your government access channels and people will get all of their public announcements in while watching the morning "traffic report" for the downtown.
And then add in sources from permitting fees, use fees for community GIS products, fees from other utilities (you think private utilities wouldn't love the same wireless meter system?) and you can fund plenty of funding before having to tap the general fund and local residential users.
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Homebrew1994
Betzwood Basement Brewery

join:2001-11-15
King Of Prussia, PA

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said by ossito16 See Profile :

said by Steve See Profile :

said by ossito16 See Profile :

What is it going to take to get free public wifi. Why can't they just create a small tax on cigs, restaurant, or hotels?
Why should smokers, diners, or out-of-town guests be expected to pay for your internet?
I am figuring it could be a small tax though, like 5 cents or so. Maybe take a portion of parking fees/tickets. I bet if city starts at $20 and cable/telcos raise their prices then city will raise their price too. I dont believe the public wifi should be operating to gain a profit to give raises to alderman and other city officials.
I think a lot of cities (certainly Philly) already tax the daylights out of those things to try to make up budget shortfalls elsewhere.
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