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Re: How about because no one cares

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

Bruce Kushnick cares because he has had it in for big telco for years and has based his whole business(teletruth.org) on it. But the average person reading a newspaper could care less and the reporters and editors for those papers put in them what people are interested in. So that is why the press doesn't care - they aren't on some quest to destroy an industry like Bruce is.
Whoa! Are you kidding me? Your going to slam Kushnick for bringing this up? Damn that bastard for pointing out that astroturf campaigns exist and are unethical???!?!!?!??! I commend him for being the only one who does the research and exposes these companies for what they are!!!

And think about these stories and the media. They would be block buster news reports. America loves seeing people caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Look at Dateline to catch a predator. We love it because we love to see the looks on their faces when they realize they are absolutely cold busted and all the indusputable evidence is laif out on the table in front of them. These astro turf campaigns would do the exact same things to corporate America. So why doesn't the media bite off on it?
How much is AT&T and Verizon spending with teh networks in advertising? Is it millions or billions? Would you blow the whistle on your biggest client? So in the mean time we'll keep watching news reports about Sangina's pony hawk and who got voted off "idol" this week.

Come to think of it, did any of the major networks report that Ed Whitacre CEO of AT&T has sold $80 million in AT&T stock over the last 12 months and set him self up with a $170 million retirement? And where is the fiber network the telcos promised the government would be built before 2004 back in 1996? And what do the telcos get exactly for the LITERALLY hundreds of millions of dollars they have spent on lobbyists since 1996? »www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/cl···ear=2006

We all need to understand that the consumer is the loser in all of this. The consumer is the one still getting 500 kbps while the rest of the industrial world surfs at 20 Mbps at a quarter of the cost.

If anything we should be thanking Kushnick and I sure wish there was a way to get him a louder megaphone. As far as I can tell, he is single handedly the only watchdog group reporting on the telcos. It sure as hell isn't the government with all of those lobbying dollars getting passed around.


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said by T1 Rocky See Profile :

And where is the fiber network the telcos promised the government would be built before 2004 back in 1996?
They built it. They never promised FTTH. They promised a fiber backbone and we got it. Hence the glut in fiber until just the last year or so.
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Incorrect. The promise made to states like PA was for last mile, 45Mbps fiber connectivity. I have the original order around here somewhere in pdf. Yes, that's ludicrous, but yes, they still got tax write-offs and other incentives essentially for free.

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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Incorrect. The promise made to states like PA was for last mile, 45Mbps fiber connectivity. I have the original order around here somewhere in pdf. Yes, that's ludicrous, but yes, they still got tax write-offs and other incentives essentially for free.
Wait, what do you have? Do you have a promise from Verizon to the states? to their customers?

Or is this "promise" actually an order issued by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania PUC?
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