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LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
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join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI

reply to justin

Re: Got in Fight with RCN and wont use TIme Warner

A dry/dedicated copper loop (which will be used for the ADSL2+ loops) has certain requirements. Once the loop is installed, and accepted, the ILEC (verizon) is required to keep that loop in the same or better condition. So even if FIOS is rolled out, and they remove copper in the area, they are required to maintain the dedicated copper loop.

Now, that isn't to say they won't touch it, and could cause issues, but legally speaking, they need to keep, and maintain the copper loop.
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BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA

Do you know if they will allow bonding ? Hell Id love to pop for 2 15/1's if they can bond em. Id be happier then hell.
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Gotcha

@rcn.com

reply to LBDSL
By my parents home the copper is in place as well as the Fiber optics.

In fact they still have a line on the copper for emergency blackout purposes even though Fiber optics is available.

The issue here was that its an MDU so I guess that if Fiber was installed it would just be installed as an additonal system in the building.

A question:

If the loop length in the building is under 2k feet and its a highrise MDU with the wiring underground, would you expect that the full 15000/1000 speed will be obtainable?

DSL is a dedicated pipe and should have lower utilization as well on the DSLAM. In my building the vast majority of users are on RCN on an oversold FTTB architecture. Alot less are on Time Warner which just put in a FTTC architecture last year (New node across the street).

Covad put in their AceMap DSLAM also recently in the Central Office here. But when it came out the speed was Earthlink LPV 8/1 and it was a disappointment.

Now that 15000/1000 is available, it makes Covad alot more viable. Being near a CO generally means ALOT better line conditions and a much better overall service.

Do you know which Modem Covad will include for its ADSL2+ service at 15000/1000? I think for Earthlink LPV they were using the Zyxel equipment.

I am disappointed however that FIOS never made it over here yet.



LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
VIP
join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI

reply to BosstonesOwn
Nope, no bonding on ADSL



batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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reply to LBDSL

said by LBDSL:

A dry/dedicated copper loop (which will be used for the ADSL2+ loops) has certain requirements.
It is a voice grade line, that is all Covad pays for. A T-1 data grade copper wire will cost by the foot and will run into hundreds of dollars a month. Sorry no free lunch for leaches.


LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
VIP
join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI

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reply to Gotcha

said by Gotcha :

Do you know which Modem Covad will include for its ADSL2+ service at 15000/1000? I think for Earthlink LPV they were using the Zyxel equipm
So far a bridge is all that is certified, with another device (Router) going through testing now.
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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

reply to BosstonesOwn
than. Happier than hell.


bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
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reply to LBDSL
ADSL2+ is a bondable protocol though.



LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
VIP
join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI

There are no plans to offer any form of xDSL in a bonded option. T1's yes, xDSL no.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

reply to bogey780

said by bogey780:

ADSL2+ is a bondable protocol though.
Business wise it doesnt make sense, your just killing your T3 accounts.

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