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 jbbonds join:2004-04-10 Sausalito, CA | Just checked-Not cheap! AT&T will do "1.5 to 3.0" for $25/mo covad online quote attached as zip file | |  | I wonder what options san francisco has now in the inner city for broadband for the nicest sections.
In Queens where I am in NYC in the building Im moving to:
It will have Covad 15000/1000 available (Loop length is under 2k feet), it has RCN fiber optics to the building, coaxial RG6UQ to the apartments over DOCSIS, Time Warner Cable Fiber to right across the street of the building to a narrow segment, and also what looks like a node or amp in the back of the building which is shared which was from before they put in the new node last year.
Due to coincidence, AT&T fiber optics is found in the manhole by the corner of the building since a commercial establishment in the rear uses them but there is no AT&T fiber in the residential building.
Having 15000/1000 over ADSL2+ available makes a compelling broadband choice. Tripleplay is NOT needed because the building has FREE CATV from one of the providers and one can choose ANY broadband and phone options they want (VoIP, doubleplay of internet/phone, etc....) from any carrier they want.
The question is what the price of 15000/1000 service would be. Covad requires 12 mth contracts. RCN and Time Warner don't require any contracts. Verizon DSL is too slow and too pricey and FIOS is NOT available yet to this location and supposedly FIOS construction was halted for this area. Not sure what is going on with FIOS and when/if it will become available here.
Charlie Hoffman unlike Parsons believes strongly in Web 2.0. But the problem with Covad, is that it still wants to concentrate on Copper with lower costs rather than finding a long term business model which helps to deploy fiber optics for residential last mile.
So essentially we have 3 REAL competitors for broadband with their own distinct last mile pipe (POTS, and 2 different CATV/Fiber optics based systems).
Still questionable if the 4th will come in (Verizon FIOS). I dont see it happening for 2007 however. Covad's introduction of 15/1 service seems to indicate that for the inner cities, FIOS wont be here for awhile yet and it still has life because Earthlink/Covad introduced 8/1 LPV service, which now evolved into a 15/1 service directly from Covad.
| |  NetFixerFreedom is NOT freePremium join:2004-06-24 The 'Boro Reviews:
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| reply to jbbonds It is highly unlikely that AT&T will supply a dedicated (no POTS required) business class ADSL circuit with an SLA for $25.00 per month (although perhaps the former SBC prices in San Francisco are better than here in former BellSouth country).
Here in former BellSouth country, a 1.5Mbps/256Kbps business class ADSL circuit goes for $79.95 per month, and a 3.0Mbps/384Kbps business class ADSL circuit goes for $89.95 per month. Those are line share DSL circuits and also require you to have a business class POTS line. When I had a BellSouth POTS business line it cost me $99.00 per month. I did not feel like jumping through the hoops required on the web site to find the current pricing for a business POTS line, but I doubt it is less than that.
For me, a Covad dedicated ADSL circuit combined with Vonage is a really good bargain, and it has also proven to be more reliable than the BellSouth POTS/ADSL service that it replaced. -- We can never have enough of nature. We need to witness our own limits transgressed, and some life pasturing freely where we never wander. Test your firewall. | |  jbbonds join:2004-04-10 Sausalito, CA | reply to jbbonds
Covad Sales Rep just called Rep would not provide full numbers, since they have not yet rolled this new, expanded residential ADSL svc out but will do so at the beginning of next month.
They may continue to call these new, higher speed offerings Telesoho as an extension of their current, branded offerings, and prices should be commensurate escalation of prices for currently - offered services. Upload speeds are traditionally 1/4 of download speeds so do your own math on the #'s below: 1.5 mbps up $59.99 3.0 up $79.99 6.0 up: $99.99 8.0 up: ~$124.99 and etc.
I have opted for now, with my new-as-of-yesterday phone number, to do the easiest thing & go with AT&T - who says the highest speed they can offer is "up to" 3.0, for $24.99. Of course I additionally have to have their phone service, too, for a minimum of about $20/mo after taxes.
When AT&T gets this number provisioned it will show up in their database and Covad and others can give me a line test and quote for what they can and cannot provide. At least that is how it's all been explained to me. | | |
|  jbbonds join:2004-04-10 Sausalito, CA | Covad Sales Rep just called back with full quote (Errors in previous posting, above, regarding line speeds and prices: replace "up" with "mbps download speed.")
I'm 6892 telefeet from AT&T CO. AT&T and competitors all say no to anything greater than 3.0 on a shared ADSL line.
Covad, however, says they can give me _biz-class_ service on a non-shared separate line, up to 8 mbps but it's expensive. Service levels and fees: (note nothing offered between 3 and 8 megs! interesting marketing strategy...)
1.5 mbps download = didnt ask price 3.0 down/768 up = $109/mo 8 meg = $150/mo 10 meg = $175/mo There's a faster level but I'm too far away to get it.
$304 install fee for any level of service with rebate for full amount.
Hope this info might help any of you.
I'm going to see if I can live with the cheap residential fast-as-they'll-give me 'Pro' 3.0 service from AT&T for $24.95/mo and no term commitment. My service is still ramping up on day 5 or so after install, towards 3.0, at about 2.5 now. The 'Deblin' tool on DSLR says my estimated downstream maxrate is 3486, uprate 818. We'll see what we get. | |
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