OZO
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Re: Problem with Automatic Update since Tuesday
After installing new two packages and several reboots running "Custom" check took 3:30 min, wich is better than previous 17 min.
What I did:
1. Uninstall v2 of 927891, reboot.
2. Install v3 of 927891, reboot.
3. Install UpdateAgent v3.0, reboot.
4. Check and install latest updates, reboot.
It's better now. Thank you rdhw  for the links and advice to re-install 927891 fix.
It may be the best that can be done for now, who knows. Real improvement may bring only a new SP3 package though. In this case we will not need to check / download / install more then hundred(!) latest updates (since SP2).
When it will finally come to us, bringing to the end this obvious absurd of downloading so many hotfixes separately?
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La Luna
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clubs: | I don't have v2 of KB927891 installed, I've got none. Is that an issue? |
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HA Nut
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USA | Not IMO. Just means you had not yet tried to patch this bug. Makes sense since you had not been suffering from it... |
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OZO
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join:2003-01-17 | reply to La Luna
927891 fixes 916089, which in turn fixes 100% CPU utilization problem. So, I think it's be logical to install 927891 v3 now.
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La Luna
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said by HA Nut :Not IMO. Just means you had not yet tried to patch this bug. Makes sense since you had not been suffering from it... Okey dokey, thanks. 
I guess I'll install that first as OZO did. I could have sworn I read to do it in the opposite order somewhere but maybe I'm not remembering right, I read a lot of stuff about this.
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La Luna
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YAY!! It seems to have worked!! Took about 2 1/2 minutes, but no freezes or anything. |
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So now what to do? All KBs talk about 2003 Server and XP. I have 2000 Server and I have the issue. I utilized the switch from "Microsoft Update" to "Windows Update" and my server is now performing as expected. I called Microsoft and was told I needed to provide a credit card so they can charge me $245 to speak to somebody.
So my options are no updates and eventually I'll get hit with some worm or updates and my server won't run. You'd think this company has enough money that they don't need to charge it's customers to fix issues they cause in the first place. I could understand being charged if this were my lack of ability to manage a server, but c'mon... |
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yeti34
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This really sucks and I wish I had seen this thread before I went out and got a new HD. I thought I just had a HD going out on me and figured I just needed to replace it. I can't return it for it is used since that is what I am runnning off of now. I will try to get this update and hopee it solves the issue. I have to reread to find out what I need, for I just skimmed over everything and thought I needed to post. I did not notice it on my other PC's for I have not had them on in awhile. I love this site for info but only wished I had seen it sooner. Live and learn I guess. |
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HA Nut
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said by gworkman7 :So now what to do? All KBs talk about 2003 Server and XP. I have 2000 Server and I have the issue. I utilized the switch from "Microsoft Update" to "Windows Update" and my server is now performing as expected. I called Microsoft and was told I needed to provide a credit card so they can charge me $245 to speak to somebody. So my options are no updates and eventually I'll get hit with some worm or updates and my server won't run. You'd think this company has enough money that they don't need to charge it's customers to fix issues they cause in the first place. I could understand being charged if this were my lack of ability to manage a server, but c'mon... No question that MS does not want to support it's older OS's. No profit in it. (The only thing they gain would be happy customers.  ) But short of going to another completely different OS, most of us will have no choice but to upgrade. 
I'm a PC person and don't know much about servers. At this point in time, MS will still let PC owners get updates manually by using the TechNet site. »www.microsoft.com/technet/securi···may.mspx Is this an avenue you could take advantage of? |
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HA Nut
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said by La Luna :YAY!! It seems to have worked!! Took about 2 1/2 minutes, but no freezes or anything. Glad to hear it!  Both you and OZO have given me the hope it will work on the PCs I need to fix. |
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La Luna
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said by gworkman7 :So now what to do? All KBs talk about 2003 Server and XP. I have 2000 Server and I have the issue. I utilized the switch from "Microsoft Update" to "Windows Update" and my server is now performing as expected. I called Microsoft and was told I needed to provide a credit card so they can charge me $245 to speak to somebody. So my options are no updates and eventually I'll get hit with some worm or updates and my server won't run. You'd think this company has enough money that they don't need to charge it's customers to fix issues they cause in the first place. I could understand being charged if this were my lack of ability to manage a server, but c'mon... IMHO, you should just leave it as is, using Windows Update. A little less convenient, but better than being burned with some nasty. 
If this fix didn't work for me, that's what I was going to do.
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| That is my plan for now..Win Updates only. It is working. I'm not concerned about the Office updates. The only product used on the server is Excel and the only spreadsheets/macros run on it are created by me. I'm sure M$ needs to sell more upgrades, but some people work for companies who are satisfied with what already does the job for them.
Thanks for the suggestions. |
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nu2this
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one way to fix this issue, since most people have to update to use Vista... take it a step further and update to a mac... then you don't have to worry about these issues...
and... you can also run windows on a mac...
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jstone00
join:2004-06-19
Fortuna, CA | reply to slashman
I, too, was having the problem described in the first post in this thread. The fixes described in previous posts worked for me, and I've now successfully updated my machines. Thank you! |
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Annmarie
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This same issue came up at work on my husband's laptop - ground to a halt and took forever to get anything to run. After many hard reboots I was able to view the process in Task Manager and discovered svchost hitting the CPU at almost 100%.
I told my husband he had a virus (because he is very negligent at keeping his computer clean and secure) and will most likely get fired.
Did a bit of Googling and found the solution laluna posted about.
After a few questions - honey how long has the update icon been in your systray? Oh a week now? Um - that is bad.
I am so embarrassed - I never even searched here before I Googled. I should have known better that you guys were all over it. I did learn a lot about different services and processes and was able to carefully remove or disable several from starting on his machine.
I told him the virus has been cleaned and he better be more careful in the future. |
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antiphishing
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Download backdoor found in Windows Update
No protection currently available for Bits flaw
Matt Chapman, vnunet.com 11 May 2007
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A security firm has warned that parts of Windows designed to download official patches and updates are being used to download malicious files.
Elia Florio, security response engineer at Symantec, said on a company blog that the Background Intelligent Transfer Service (Bits) in Windows had been used to download files to PCs infected with a Trojan.
"Using Bits to download malicious files is a clever trick because it bypasses local firewalls, as the download is performed by Windows itself and does not require suspicious actions for process injection," she said.
Florio also warned that there is currently no way to stop files being downloaded using this attack.
"At the moment there is no immediate workaround against this type of attack as it is not easy to check what Bits should download and not download," she said.
"Probably the Bits interface should be designed to be accessible only with a higher level of privilege, or the download jobs created with Bits should be restricted to only trusted URLs."
The Downloader Trojan that uses this attack was emailed out in spam messages in Germany at the end of March 2007.
Florio said that it was worth mentioning that the Bits download method is already well-documented in the underground and was posted as an "anti-firewall loader" example on a Russian forum at the end of 2006.
»www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21897···-windows
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tlking98
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This is what I used to fix the issue with svchost going to 100% when running automatic updates. I found it after searching on groups.google.com.
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The following assumes you're
on Windows XP but will probably work OK for Win2k as well. If you're
confident about what you're doing, then try the
following first - only if it doesn't work, then there's another level of
stuff that can be done following:
1. Stop and Disable Automatic Updates, Background Intelligent Transfer
Service and the Cryptographic Service.
2. Rename the folder %SystemRoot%\SoftwareDistribution to
%SystemRoot%\OldSoftwareDistribution
3. Open Notepad and create a file containing the following:
REGSVR32 WUAPI.DLL
REGSVR32 WUAUENG.DLL
REGSVR32 WUAUENG1.DLL
REGSVR32 ATL.DLL
REGSVR32 WUCLTUI.DLL
REGSVR32 WUPS.DLL
REGSVR32 WUPS2.DLL
REGSVR32 WUWEB.DLL
Save this file as 'Wudll.cmd' (without the quotes) to any convenient
location then exit Notepad and double click on the file you just saved. You
should get a 'Sucess' mesage for each of the .dll's listed above.
4. Now Re-enable to Automatic status and then Start each of the services
you stopped before - Automatic Updates, Background Intelligent Transfer
Service and the Cryptographic Service.
5. Now Reboot. Now Reboot Again. (Yes, twice.)
See if that solves it - give it a couple of days. If so, then you can
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La Luna
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said by antiphishing :Download backdoor found in Windows Update..... Not sure what this has to do with the issues being discussed in this thread, but the trojan has to already be on the machine for it to be able to use BITS to download more malware.
»Trojan could be infecting computers through Microsoft update
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Name Game
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Fix for Microsoft Automatic Updates not working
Users report continued problems with Microsoft patch, even after downloading and running new hotfix
»www.infoworld.com/article/07/05/···g_1.html
»www.computerworld.com/action/art···c=kc_top
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La Luna
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| Well, I mentioned here in one of my other posts that people were reporting that the "fix" didn't work for them, which is why I was reluctant to try it. I didn't want to further muck things up by applying a hotfix that might then have to be uninstalled somewhere down the line to try something else. The more "fixes* that don't work that you apply for a problem, the more likely that something else is going to blow down the line eventually.
The people who tried it here gave me the confidence to give it a go, and luckily, it worked for me. I suppose it's also possible that *some* (not all) people who say it didn't work did something wrong in the way they applied the hotfix.
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