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Mount Airy, MD | Fools With Money Considering how much real estate goes for in metro DC, especially in Northern Virginia, anyone who falls for this sort of scam has no one to blame but themselves.
You would think someone would think a little before plunking down $600K or more for a house.
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THINK A LITTLE...
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What the hell kind of comment is that? So anybody that pays 600k or more for a house is dumb? Or are you mad because people have that much money to spend? Maybe we should tax them more because they have more money (oh wait, we already do).
It's called "cost of living" dude and it varies location to location. That same 600k house in the DC area probably goes for 2m in Santa Monica.
They do have to blame themselves if they knew about the costs and restrictions of the broadband services before they bought the house. If they didn't know until they started getting bills then they were simply scammed.
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Lumberjack:What the hell kind of comment is that? A very smart and astute one, just like all of my other comments.
said by Lumberjack:So anybody that pays 600k or more for a house is dumb? Or are you mad because people have that much money to spend? Maybe we should tax them more because they have more money (oh wait, we already do). Which post of mine made such claims?
said by Lumberjack:It's called "cost of living" dude and it varies location to location. That same 600k house in the DC area probably goes for 2m in Santa Monica. Wow! No kidding? You know, I had NO IDEA that the cost of housing varies by location!
said by Lumberjack:They do have to blame themselves if they knew about the costs and restrictions of the broadband services before they bought the house. If they didn't know until they started getting bills then they were simply scammed. See? I knew at the end, you'd see things my way.
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Newark, DE | reply to Lumberjack
said by Lumberjack:What the hell kind of comment is that? So anybody that pays 600k or more for a house is dumb? Or are you mad because people have that much money to spend? Maybe we should tax them more because they have more money (oh wait, we already do). It's called "cost of living" dude and it varies location to location. That same 600k house in the DC area probably goes for 2m in Santa Monica. Right on. I can afford a well over a 600K house. I'm you cleared that up that we well to do individuals are not dumb.  |
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Arlington, VA | reply to Lumberjack
But honestly, who thinks about who their entertainment provider will be when buying a brand new home. Buyers were probaly too excited about having a NEW home and far more concerned with packing up and moving and getting financing and everything else that comes along with buying a home and moving. Sure people should read documents before they sign them but we know thats not the reality but I agree that the buyer has no one to blame but themselves. |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by NPGMBR:But honestly, who thinks about who their entertainment provider will be when buying a brand new home. For most people a home is one of the biggest investments they will ever make. I know when I purchased mine I lost count of how many hours I spent researching neighborhoods, school systems, broadband availability, crime reports, commuting routes and other such things. Any homebuyer is putting up a ton of money in the process, so researching the purchase as much as possible beforehand to ensure that a house meets one needs is vital.
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Arlington, VA | Yeah that applies to you but not to the majority. Do you honestly think that everyone else would think that they need to see who their entertainment provider will be. It's my GUESS that most people just look to see whats available in the area and leave it at that not expecting that there will be restrictions on which providers they can use. |
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| said by NPGMBR:Yeah that applies to you but not to the majority. Do you honestly think that everyone else would think that they need to see who their entertainment provider will be. It's my GUESS that most people just look to see whats available in the area and leave it at that not expecting that there will be restrictions on which providers they can use. Anyone who does not do their homework, especially when buying something as big as a house, deserves to get taken. Homeowner association policies need to be stated when someone puts down that much money. This service is the same as an association fee.
When I bought my house, I made sure there was no home owner's association or group. Most tend to be problem makers rather than problem solvers. |
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Arlington, VA | I understand your point but what I'm saying is that with everything that goes into making that purchase decision, seeing who the service provider is might be one of those things that gets bumped to the bottom of the list and forgotten. Just because it's very important to you does not mean it holds equal importance to others. |
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| said by NPGMBR:I understand your point but what I'm saying is that with everything that goes into making that purchase decision, seeing who the service provider is might be one of those things that gets bumped to the bottom of the list and forgotten. Just because it's very important to you does not mean it holds equal importance to others. Everything needs to be taken into consideration when buying a house: schools, roads, nearby shopping, traffic, cost, etc. If someone puts an internet service provider to the bottom of the list, then they need to live with the consequences of their choices.
As I said before, I weighed everything when I bought my house. I weighed the pros and cons and decided to buy the house.
I understand DC houses are outrageous but people need to do research when dumping as much money as they do on a house.
I even had a friend remove the antenna restrictions from his contract. The homeowner's association told him they would sue. He told them he would have both them and the developer (who approved the waiver) in court and, either way, someone was buying his house at full value. He never heard another thing about it. |
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Broadband competition is a big factor in my decision. Personally, I think $150/mo for symmetrical 100Mbit fiber and TV is a good deal and would take it. But to someone else, who maybe took out more mortgage than they could afford, it may be a large burden.
Also, if the service becomes unreliable, they have no competition to switch to. Monopolies have problems, thats why we don't like them. |
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kudos:1 | Or to someone who does not want TV or internet service (or wants satellite television), the $150 would be essentially a charge for nothing.
I think the real issue though is having access cut off to competing TV services. That $150/month does not include any premium digital services and one digital box. I could not find any record of the fees anywhere for premium services. |
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Albuquerque, NM | reply to NPGMBR
I guarantee you that this is part of their HOA agreement. They pay for the service through their dues. If they didn't pay attention to the CC & R that is their own problem, and I'm sure they could get satellite if they wanted. It just means that they would pay for that on top. As far as Verizon and Comcast are concerned I'm sure they didn't run any facilities to the development once it learned of the agreement. Why bother making the investment. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy:When I bought my house, I made sure there was no home owner's association or group. Most tend to be problem makers rather than problem solvers. I feel the same way... but HOAs do work for some people.
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Alexandria, VA | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:Considering how much real estate goes for in metro DC, especially in Northern Virginia, anyone who falls for this sort of scam has no one to blame but themselves. You would think someone would think a little before plunking down $600K or more for a house. Wow. Pure genius. What an astute observer you are.
So, tell me: in the DC area, where are the bulk of the jobs located?
And tell me why it is that people that try to buy housing close to their jobs, so that they aren't having to commute 60+ miles and 2-3 hours each way every day of the work week are fools?
Once again, another excellent post from you...
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by nixen:And tell me why it is that people that try to buy housing close to their jobs, so that they aren't having to commute 60+ miles and 2-3 hours each way every day of the work week are fools? Hello? Go to any DC area realtor's website and you will find plenty of housing in the price range specified. Not all of it is in HOAs which restrict broadband availability. You could theoretically buy a house across the street from this area and get FIOS or cable modem service and pay the same price you'd pay for a house in that HOA.
If broadband is that important to someone, then they need to assess if a house meets those needs before they sign the paperwork... not after.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to pnh102
i have heard some bad things about some HOAs, as in some want lawns that look as good as a pro level golf course(ie no mowing every week isnt enough)
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nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:said by nixen:And tell me why it is that people that try to buy housing close to their jobs, so that they aren't having to commute 60+ miles and 2-3 hours each way every day of the work week are fools? Hello? Go to any DC area realtor's website and you will find plenty of housing in the price range specified. Not all of it is in HOAs which restrict broadband availability. Hello? Have you ever actually tried buying housing in NoVA? Many areas, particularly places like Loudon Cty., if you want to buy a house, you're stuck with an HOA (ever wonder why so many houses out there are all beige?).
said by pnh102:You could theoretically buy a house across the street from this area and get FIOS or cable modem service and pay the same price you'd pay for a house in that HOA. Nice theory. Too bad you haven't got a freaking clue on what reality is.
said by pnh102:If broadband is that important to someone, then they need to assess if a house meets those needs before they sign the paperwork... not after. Did you read the original article, or even the summary posted? It's not whether they want other service it's the fact that whether they use a different service provider or want no service at all, they are stuck paying these bozos $150/month (today's price - who knows what it will be year-over-year).
To be honest, given how some of the HOAs in NoVA act, it makes me wonder how they've flown under the legal radar all these years.
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by nixen:Hello? Have you ever actually tried buying housing in NoVA? Many areas, particularly places like Loudon Cty., if you want to buy a house, you're stuck with an HOA (ever wonder why so many houses out there are all beige?). So you are telling me that every single house for sale in Loudoun county is in an HOA. Every single solitary house? Every last square inch of residential real estate is under an HOA? Or more particularly, an HOA which restricts broadband access? Every single house is like that?
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