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batterup
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reply to wishcom
Re: We addressed this problem in 2001.

said by wishcom See Profile :

that's not how it works.

fttp that's available to residential locations is provisioned
completely differently than a dedicated tariffed commercial circuit, that runs directly from CO to premise.

everything is different, from the mux'es to the physical/facilities/routing/etc.

it's like saying since there's copper by your house, you should be able to get T1's and T3's, just because the copper is there.
No, I am saying money talks B.S. walks. You have it, anybody that wants it can get it. The problem is they want a free lunch.

wishcom
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Spring Grove, IL

reply to batterup
that's not how it works.

fttp that's available to residential locations is provisioned
completely differently than a dedicated tariffed commercial circuit, that runs directly from CO to premise.

everything is different, from the mux'es to the physical/facilities/routing/etc.

it's like saying since there's copper by your house, you should be able to get T1's and T3's, just because the copper is there.


batterup
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said by wishcom See Profile :

Anyone at a commercial location can get a number of options from ATT, such as opt-e-man, gigaMAN, etc.

Not the FTTP you're thinking of though. This is not residential FTTP etc.
Does the fiber pass places where people live? It makes cents and dollars to supply a service to people that can afford it. You have a fiber connection and you can resell that service. It makes cents for everybody.

wishcom
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Spring Grove, IL
reply to batterup
Anyone at a commercial location can get a number of options from ATT, such as opt-e-man, gigaMAN, etc.

Not the FTTP you're thinking of though. This is not residential FTTP etc.


batterup
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said by wishcom See Profile :

why would you assume that? to answer your question, no - not anywhere in this state actually.
You did.

wishcom
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Spring Grove, IL
reply to batterup
why would you assume that? to answer your question, no - not anywhere in this state actually.


batterup
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said by wishcom See Profile :

yes, our fiber circuit is supplied by at&t.

So anyone can get FTTP if they want it.

wishcom
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Spring Grove, IL

reply to Mchart
yes, our fiber circuit is supplied by at&t.

and, a correction - no, att or comcast do not serve the MAJORITY of our coverage area. att and comcast don't touch the Verizon territory where we're located.

not sure why dsl or cable are a better choice considering the contracts, poor technical support, and asynchronous limitations... but if you're looking for the cheapest service available they're great.


Mchart
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said by wishcom See Profile :



We purchased one of those overpriced T-1's, distributed it amongst local businesses, and it took off from there. Now we've got 13 towers and a different upstream connection to the internet (a fiber-optic upstream at our new datacenter.)
Who supplies your FIBER connection? Money talks, you know what walks. You must be making money or you would not still be in business.
More then likely AT&T. While I think it's great what they are doing, as of now, there are better solutions for both business and resedential users. Both comcast and AT&T serve in their coverage area as of now, and both are for the most part in this area (for the most) fairly reliable.


batterup
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We purchased one of those overpriced T-1's, distributed it amongst local businesses, and it took off from there. Now we've got 13 towers and a different upstream connection to the internet (a fiber-optic upstream at our new datacenter.)
Who supplies your FIBER connection? Money talks, you know what walks. You must be making money or you would not still be in business.

wishcom
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Spring Grove, IL

  In 2001, my company addressed the problem in our area. There was *nothing* available except for extremely overpriced T-1 service from Verizon. Our LATA is one of those areas where VZ took over from GTE, poor copper, poor infrastructure, etc.

We purchased one of those overpriced T-1's, distributed it amongst local businesses, and it took off from there. Now we've got 13 towers and a different upstream connection to the internet (a fiber-optic upstream at our new datacenter.)

We truly believe in a commitment to areas like ours. Even when the cable company attempted to serve our area, they failed - by not doing a single thing properly. 1) they under-delivered bandwidth, 2) they didn't pay attention to their customers, and 3) their infrastructure was far inferior to other cable companies, so service was extremely poor.

Since our beginning, we've expanded to become an all Motorola Canopy provider, and now offer speeds in excess of 10mbps. It's been a lot of work to get here, but our communities appreciate the work.

Rob A.
WishCom Internet Services
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