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 ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | reply to Time4aNAP
Re: Hearsay Not Same as Truth said by Time4aNAP: If you have VoIP service, it is your legal responsibility to provide accurate, timely E911 information to your VoIP carrier. Gotta love the VOIP apologists.
A lot of good it does providing VOIP providers accurate information when they don't route the calls properly as what the case with my Vonage service.
So long as providers are allowed to call their joke of an emergency service 9-1-1, consumers will continue to be duped into thinking that it is reliable alternative to POTS 9-1-1. And this goes way beyond "9-1-1 won't work during a power outage" disclaimers. VOIP 9-1-1 service is been shown to be too unreliable and requires a much higher level of scrutany by the FCC than they currently get. | | |
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Time4aNAPPremium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL | said by ColorBASIC:Gotta love the VOIP apologists. That's mighty ironic when it's coming from the #1 ILEC apologist around these parts. Resorting to ad hominem attacks is indicative of a position that has no truth behind it.
A lot of good it does providing VOIP providers accurate information when they don't route the calls properly as what the case with my Vonage service. That's your claim, so prove it. Precisely how did you eliminate every single possibility except a routing error made by Vonage?
Of course, if it truly is the case, it will be moot quite soon, when Vonage switches from those patented routing protocols that ILEC Verizon owns, and on to something that will work.
So long as providers are allowed to call their joke of an emergency service 9-1-1, consumers will continue to be duped into thinking that it is reliable alternative to POTS 9-1-1. Ah...the many local government agencies that provide 911 service might take issue with your blanket indictment of them collectively. However you're the only one I see calling it "9-1-1". And POTS has nothing whatsoever to do with it. There is no such thing as "POTS 9-1-1".
VOIP 9-1-1 service is been shown to be too unreliable and requires a much higher level of scrutany by the FCC than they currently get. There's no such thing as "VOIP 9-1-1" either. There's only 911 service (no dashes, there are no dash keys on phones), and it's provided by local governments, not telcos.
However it is the telcos that are responsible for getting 911 calls through. The ILECs' current practice of sabotaging Caller ID data from competitive sources isn't what I would call being responsible, however. In fact, when that sabotage affects a 911 call, I'd call that criminal.
Am I supposed to be persuaded to buy my phone service from an ILEC because they play dirty? No, that's a good reason not to reward the ILECs with my business!
If the ILECs go out of business, it's their own fault. I hope they do, good riddance! The sooner we shake off the mantle of last century's "necessary evil" and get some real capitalism going, the better! | |
ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
4 edits | Dash keys? Of course there aren't dash keys. Come on, now you're just being lame. Look in the phone book. You don't see 7 and 10 digit phone numbers separated (area code, prefix, int'l access code, etc) by dashes. As far as 9-1-1, it's written that way not just by me, but the NENA and hundreds of fire and police departments. Why? Because it's pronouced nine-one-one, not nine hundred and eleven, not nine-eleven...nine-one-one. Because you dial, 9-1-1. Use your head. And certainly yes, the PSTA isn't operated by the VOIP provider, but it's the VOIP or telco who ROUTE THE CALLS THERE or are at least supposed to. In the case of Vonage, they didn't. However had I had Verizon POTS, it would have. Again, use your head.
And sure, I'M an ILEC apologist. I guess that is why I CANCELLED Verizon DSL and their overpriced POTS. I even went with cable HSI over FiOS...because I just LOVE the ILECs.
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Yeah, I just LOVE the ILECs.
said by ColorBASIC's TWC HSI review :
Even though Verizon FiOS is also available at my address, the loss of copper, previous experience with bad Verizon service, Verizon's endless junk fees, and contract (in order to get a better price than RR) stop me from bothering to try it.
And "prove it". What, sign back up with Vonage, and record my 9-1-1 call going to an off-hours number at the police station? Then what...we watch you go off on yet another Sesame Street, 9/11 and WMD tangent. No thanks.
VOIP routes (or is at least supposed to route) 9-1-1 calls to the appropriate call center. That makes it THEIR 9-1-1 service. I'm responsible for giving them correct address info, which I did. They're responsible for taking that info and making sure the 9-1-1 call gets to the right place (which Vonage failed miserably in doing).
READ threads before responding. Think before typing. It will save you embarrassment. | |
Time4aNAPPremium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL | said by ColorBASIC:And sure, I'M an ILEC apologist. I guess that is why I CANCELLED Verizon DSL and their overpriced POTS. I even went with cable HSI over FiOS...because I just LOVE the ILECs. I never accused you of being rational.
But your actions speak for themselves.
In the short time that I've been following the news here, I've seen you write quite a few contradictory things. One thing that has remained steadfast is your unwavering enthusiasm for the ILECs' product (POTS), and completely irrational (albeit venomous) arguments against VoIP. Remember your house, that can magically transport itself around town? Everything it did was to the detriment of VoIP, but apparently a very long phone cord kept it connected to the ILEC's CO at all times. But today you don't even have POTS!
Can't wait for what tomorrow holds. | |
ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Unwavering enthusiasm for POTS? Flying houses? Your short time here obviously hasn't done anything for your reading comprehension. None of what you said is true and you're just embarassing yourself.
It's always nice getting a /. reject in here, makes for a good laugh. | |
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