Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18346058 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:34:42 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:34:42 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18348461 batterup :
said by wishcom See Profile :

that's not how it works.

fttp that's available to residential locations is provisioned
completely differently than a dedicated tariffed commercial circuit, that runs directly from CO to premise.

everything is different, from the mux'es to the physical/facilities/routing/etc.

it's like saying since there's copper by your house, you should be able to get T1's and T3's, just because the copper is there.
No, I am saying money talks B.S. walks. You have it, anybody that wants it can get it. The problem is they want a free lunch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18348461 Thu, 17 May 2007 03:37:37 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18346058 wishcom : that's not how it works.

fttp that's available to residential locations is provisioned
completely differently than a dedicated tariffed commercial circuit, that runs directly from CO to premise.

everything is different, from the mux'es to the physical/facilities/routing/etc.

it's like saying since there's copper by your house, you should be able to get T1's and T3's, just because the copper is there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18346058 Wed, 16 May 2007 18:30:08 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18338722 batterup :
said by wishcom See Profile :

Anyone at a commercial location can get a number of options from ATT, such as opt-e-man, gigaMAN, etc.

Not the FTTP you're thinking of though. This is not residential FTTP etc.
Does the fiber pass places where people live? It makes cents and dollars to supply a service to people that can afford it. You have a fiber connection and you can resell that service. It makes cents for everybody.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18338722 Tue, 15 May 2007 14:26:11 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18337959 wishcom : Anyone at a commercial location can get a number of options from ATT, such as opt-e-man, gigaMAN, etc.

Not the FTTP you're thinking of though. This is not residential FTTP etc. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18337959 Tue, 15 May 2007 12:25:43 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18335943 batterup :
said by wishcom See Profile :

why would you assume that? to answer your question, no - not anywhere in this state actually.
You did.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18335943 Mon, 14 May 2007 23:42:45 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18335882 wishcom : why would you assume that? to answer your question, no - not anywhere in this state actually. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18335882 Mon, 14 May 2007 23:28:39 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18335603 batterup :
said by wishcom See Profile :

yes, our fiber circuit is supplied by at&t.


So anyone can get FTTP if they want it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18335603 Mon, 14 May 2007 22:39:22 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18330341 wishcom : yes, our fiber circuit is supplied by at&t.

and, a correction - no, att or comcast do not serve the MAJORITY of our coverage area. att and comcast don't touch the Verizon territory where we're located.

not sure why dsl or cable are a better choice considering the contracts, poor technical support, and asynchronous limitations... but if you're looking for the cheapest service available they're great. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18330341 Mon, 14 May 2007 01:15:07 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18330129 Mchart :
said by batterup See Profile :

said by wishcom See Profile :



We purchased one of those overpriced T-1's, distributed it amongst local businesses, and it took off from there. Now we've got 13 towers and a different upstream connection to the internet (a fiber-optic upstream at our new datacenter.)
Who supplies your FIBER connection? Money talks, you know what walks. You must be making money or you would not still be in business.
More then likely AT&T. While I think it's great what they are doing, as of now, there are better solutions for both business and resedential users. Both comcast and AT&T serve in their coverage area as of now, and both are for the most part in this area (for the most) fairly reliable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18330129 Mon, 14 May 2007 00:06:49 EDT Re: We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18329297 batterup :
said by wishcom See Profile :



We purchased one of those overpriced T-1's, distributed it amongst local businesses, and it took off from there. Now we've got 13 towers and a different upstream connection to the internet (a fiber-optic upstream at our new datacenter.)
Who supplies your FIBER connection? Money talks, you know what walks. You must be making money or you would not still be in business.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18329297 Sun, 13 May 2007 21:22:48 EDT We addressed this problem in 2001. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18327231 wishcom : In 2001, my company addressed the problem in our area. There was *nothing* available except for extremely overpriced T-1 service from Verizon. Our LATA is one of those areas where VZ took over from GTE, poor copper, poor infrastructure, etc.

We purchased one of those overpriced T-1's, distributed it amongst local businesses, and it took off from there. Now we've got 13 towers and a different upstream connection to the internet (a fiber-optic upstream at our new datacenter.)

We truly believe in a commitment to areas like ours. Even when the cable company attempted to serve our area, they failed - by not doing a single thing properly. 1) they under-delivered bandwidth, 2) they didn't pay attention to their customers, and 3) their infrastructure was far inferior to other cable companies, so service was extremely poor.

Since our beginning, we've expanded to become an all Motorola Canopy provider, and now offer speeds in excess of 10mbps. It's been a lot of work to get here, but our communities appreciate the work.

Rob A.
WishCom Internet Services
»www.wishcom.net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18327231 Sun, 13 May 2007 12:27:26 EDT