Satellite > HughesNet Satellite > Anyone else thinking WildBlue?

reply to Sircolby45

Re: Anyone else thinking WildBlue?

Wildblue and Hughesnet are a lot alike in how they treat their customers. They both have a "You have no other options therefore I don't haft to respect you" attitude.
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Wildblue Pro Pack / Beam 40 / Laredo NOC / Windows MCE SP2

Then we have work to do, don't we...

I know WB has high ping times, but do you have prime time slowdowns like this?

:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Download Connection is:: 138 Kbps about 0.1 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 17 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (Server 2)
Test Time:: 2007/05/16 - 5:33pm
Bottom Line:: 2X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 60.24 sec
Tested from a 2992 kB file and took 177.36 seconds to complete
Download Diagnosis:: May need help : running at only 13.03 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)
D-Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-CKBMHYTAV
User Agent:: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; AT&T CSM6.0) [!]
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Hybrid System, DW3000 Modem, AOL+ Grey Dish, SatMex5 1250, 4.2.1.10, Win98se

You can come get my dish and DW6000 modem and get rid of that slowdown. Even in primetime, with the new FAP, I was getting 800kbit. Free, if you pick it up. No idea where "Dixie" is.
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Sprint Mobile Broadband PX-500 | Windows XP MCE SP2 | Mobile AMD Athlon 64 4000+ | 1.5GB RAM | ATI Mobile Radeon X600 128MB | 120GB HDD

reply to Mokey2000

Ping really doesn't have too much to do with downloading programs and stuff. I have a dial up account for my World of Warcraft. Wild Blue's Fair Access Policy is FAIR. 17GB in a rolling 30 day period is generous as all heck for the same price I'm paying monthly for HNS. If anyone complains about that being over a 30 day period is just insane, as if you went over that amount you definately are an "abuser", as these companies coin it. I don't download pirated movies, I don't download movies at all really. I don't download ISOs or such things like that, but what I DO download from time to time can easily go over 400MB. I'd say within a month I'd probably download 2-3GB at MOST in WORST CASE SCENARIO. This new FAP doesn't handle abusers, it mucks up the whole service for EVERYONE. The old policy was doable, as with my example in the beginning of the thread, but now it is just stupid. It's like buying a brand new car but the company says you can only drive it on certian days during certian hours but they still want their 25 thousand dollars anyway. If Hughes wants to take this approach, what's the difference than just doing a "pay for what you use" system instead?

reply to Sircolby45
The way I understand Wildbull's FAP. If you hit FAP then you are FAPed until you refill 20% of your monthly bucket. If you figure they have a flat refill rate (which I have no idea how it works), then that would take 20% of the days of one month to come out of FAP. I have never asked a WB users, just reading their site and trying to figure it out.

If that is true they one would be FAPed for about 6 days?

Can that be true?
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| Speedstream 4200 Modem - 3m/386 plan | W98-W2KSP4-XPSP2 - All AMD | Buffalo WHR G54S with OpenWRT WR0.9 | 2 downstream switches feeding 5 total clients (no wireless)|

Ok, so if you FAP , how long are you now FAPed on their relatively new rolling monthly FAP?

That doesn't mean if you didn't download anything exactly one month ago, then you have to wait longer to get out of FAP?

Ok let's say you downloaded 17 gigs all in one day and got FAPped. You will be throttled for 30 days until that 17 gigs rolls off. Basically you will stay FAPped until you drop back below 80%.
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Wildblue Pro Pack / Beam 40 / Laredo NOC / Windows MCE SP2

So that means if you downloaded 17G/30days or 567 Megs a day, everyday exactly, then you would just FAP toward the end of the month. Or lets say you download an extra 5 megs every day to be sure you FAP before 30 days passes.

Then would it then take 6 days to get out of the FAP to get back to below 80% ??
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| Speedstream 4200 Modem - 3m/386 plan | W98-W2KSP4-XPSP2 - All AMD | Buffalo WHR G54S with OpenWRT WR0.9 | 2 downstream switches feeding 5 total clients (no wireless)|

I think it goes if you download 10GB at day 1, by day 31 (rolling 30 days remember?) you get 10GB back in your bucket. Straight up, no trickle.

reply to Fed Up2

reply to corvettez06u

The point is that Wild Blue's FAP is usable and flexible for respectful users.

Large downloads can be undertaken to fit YOUR schedule, not Hughes'.

Reasonable management can easily avoid being FAPped for everyone except those with insatiable appetites who are trying to milk every last drop from the system. This means the penalty is a lot less of a concern.

Hughes new FAP is annoying and inconvenient. It causes you to re-shape your life around downloads. Their limit is now unworkably low for many of us. Their refusal to cleanly and openly communicate rubs salt into the wound.

Wild Blue is now miles ahead for responsible users.

Hindsight is 20/20 but when I bought my system I figured to go with who was in the business the longest. You'd think 10 years the company would have grown invested in better technology increased throughput for everybody maybe kept with internet trends. Boy was I wrong it's sad that we even have a fap bucket in this day in age on any service.
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Hughesnet | DW7000 | Pro Package | Windows XP SP2 | AMD Athlon 64 3000+ | 1GB RAM | ATI Radeon 9550 256MB | 250GB HDD

If HughesNet was smart they'd add an option for 10 or 20 bucks added a month to your bill to allow you to have monthly allowance of FAP and not daily.

reply to mrpepsi
Also, WB claims post-FAP speeds of 128 down / 28 up, so you can still use the internet moderately while coming out of it. WB also emails you when you exceed 80% of your FAP, so you do get some warning, and can take appropriate action.

I wish HN would adopt the rolling 30 day, it would fit my internet usage patterns much better than HN's..........
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| R16 1250 99W | HN7000S 5.4.0.33 | Pro Plan | Windows XP