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roamer1
sticking it out at you

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Re: Good Idea

said by calvoiper See Profile :

There are still large areas of California (mostly mountainous, some desert) that have no "assigned" telco and no telephone service, except satellite, is available at all.
It isn't just California -- there are areas of Louisiana, Washington state, and even Michigan that only recently (as in "the past couple of years" got phone service.

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Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
Those areas aren't exactly where most of the USF money is going are they?


calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

No, and that's the point--reform, not talk, is needed.

If the abuses are so great that the program needs to be killed rather than reformed, so be it--but that doesn't justify a false argument that the program isn't needed at all because "everywhere has had phone service for 40 years", because not everywhere has.

Just because you're sure you're right doesn't mean you can conjure up facts that aren't true to support your side.

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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by calvoiper See Profile :

No, and that's the point--reform, not talk, is needed.

If the abuses are so great that the program needs to be killed rather than reformed, so be it--but that doesn't justify a false argument that the program isn't needed at all because "everywhere has had phone service for 40 years", because not everywhere has.

Just because you're sure you're right doesn't mean you can conjure up facts that aren't true to support your side.

calvoiper
I'm not conjuring up facts. Um go look at the % of towns that had phone service in 1967 I'm I'm sure it would be over 99%. That pretty much everywhere in my book.


calvoiper

join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA

...and if you'd said "pretty much everywhere" in the beginning, I probably wouldn't have even raised the point. Instead, I would have pointed out that removing USF entirely would probably lead to rural rate increases, so we could have argued the "city vs. farm" argument that's currently raging on another branch of this tree....

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