[NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? in Cox HSI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18347256 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:42:18 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:42:18 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18385220 anon : So it is the fault of the modem's "parents" and not the modem itself. :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18385220 Wed, 23 May 2007 19:03:44 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18376665 Irish Shark :
said by keeska See Profile :

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While that is true, it is not the MODEM's fault.
I disagree. It is the modem's fault in that it even allows such a thing to be done. Obviously the Motorola doesn't allow it or I wouldn't see its web page either.
The WebStars are shipped from the factory like that. Why? I don't have a clue. The ISP has to enable the pages and what I have seen is that almost all do not.
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said by keeska See Profile :

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While that is true, it is not the MODEM's fault.
I disagree. It is the modem's fault in that it even allows such a thing to be done. Obviously the Motorola doesn't allow it or I wouldn't see its web page either.
It is the ISP's that choose whether or not you can view those pages....

If you hook up an unprovisioned webstar you would be able to view all pages in the diagnostics, however as soon as it is provisioned and gets pushed a config file by Cox those pages are disabled...

The same could be done with a Motorla modem but are not....

So again it is the ISP and not the modem....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18374099 Mon, 21 May 2007 22:44:13 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18373824 keeska :
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While that is true, it is not the MODEM's fault.
I disagree. It is the modem's fault in that it even allows such a thing to be done. Obviously the Motorola doesn't allow it or I wouldn't see its web page either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18373824 Mon, 21 May 2007 21:56:19 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18373778 state :
said by dg2 See Profile :

If you're going to subscribe to Cox's telephone service, the box they bring out for that may also double as a HSI modem. Mine does, and it works very very well.
There's also the possibility of an additional charge for that. We've had Cox phone service for years, when it was initially installed they came out they mounted a box on the back of the house and everything was transparent.

We recently moved, and when the phone service was transferred they installed an Aris modem for voice inside the house. When I noticed the ethernet port on the back and inquired about using that for the network connection I was told it would be an additional $40 charge. Needless to say, I stuck with my SB5120.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18373778 Mon, 21 May 2007 21:46:24 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18371528 Voo : Thanks for the TON of info and suggestions. I will not be taking Cox's phone service as I currently use my cell exclusively.

And yes Irish, it's 10Megabits, my bad :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18371528 Mon, 21 May 2007 14:40:28 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18371036 Irish Shark :
said by keeska See Profile :

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The SB51xx as well as the WebStar will work just dandy. I would suggest getting a SB51xx.
Had the Webstar and swapped in an SB5100. Both work fine but the Motorola is more user friendly if you want to monitor it. You cannot access the Webstar's internal webpage if the modem is online but you are able to access the Motorola's internal webpage at any time.
While that is true, it is not the MODEM's fault. The various ISPs choose not to enable all the diagnostic pages. What are they trying to hide? :uhh:
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said by dg2 See Profile :

... If you're going to subscribe to Cox's telephone service, the box they bring out for that may also double as a HSI modem.
Excellent recommendation!

Las Vegas indeed is one of Cox's VoIP markets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18370704 Mon, 21 May 2007 12:17:22 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18370680 dg2 : One other option to consider:

If you're going to subscribe to Cox's telephone service, the box they bring out for that may also double as a HSI modem. Mine does, and it works very very well.

Of course, that will depend on how Cox delivers telephone service in LV. Ours is basically VOIP. Some markets use different modes, including conventional switched networks. It might be worth a call to LV to find out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18370680 Mon, 21 May 2007 12:10:38 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18368763 keeska :
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The SB51xx as well as the WebStar will work just dandy. I would suggest getting a SB51xx.
Had the Webstar and swapped in an SB5100. Both work fine but the Motorola is more user friendly if you want to monitor it. You cannot access the Webstar's internal webpage if the modem is online but you are able to access the Motorola's internal webpage at any time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18368763 Sun, 20 May 2007 23:54:11 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18363980 babwas : I am currently paying $74 a month, but after the 6 months it will cost me around $132. Cable, internet, and phone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18363980 Sun, 20 May 2007 00:50:28 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18356035 Irish Shark :
said by Voo See Profile :

2. What would be a good modem to buy? It seems that the Motorola "Surfboard" models are going for about $50, but their D/L speed is limited to 38Mbps. If I get the Premier Tier (10MB down), will I be able to get 10 down?
That's 10megaBITS not megaBYTES.

The SB51xx as well as the WebStar will work just dandy. I would suggest getting a SB51xx.
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"You can observe a lot by watching". Yogi Berra]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18356035 Fri, 18 May 2007 13:09:21 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18356029 jsimmons : I have used the SFA modem without issues for a short time before buyinng a Mot SB5120. Both modems have an internal web server you can "browse" to to get status and diagnostic info. However, the SFA provides very limited info, and Cox doesn't "unlock" access to certain screens with critical signal level info. On the Motorola modems this info is readily accessible and allows you to keep an eye on your signal levels - critical for proper operation of the modem connection.

When connectivity issues arise, you're flying blind with the SFA modem. You're in the know with the Motorola. And when working with tech support on an issue, having that info can help you find/correct problems more quickly.

Either modem will work. The Motorola is superior in my opinion. Some say it also works better on lines with poorer signal quality. I can't substantiate that from experience.
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." - Albert Einstein ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18356029 Fri, 18 May 2007 13:08:17 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18354826 ajwees41 :
said by babwas See Profile :

I just signed up with Cox again. They told me they no longer lease modems as a general rule here in Omaha, they would rather sell you one for $60. I told her I had a Linksys that was a couple years old I would like to use. I was informed that if I bought a modem from them I could get service for 1/2 off for 6 months and no install fee. If I used my old modem I had to pay for a self install kit ($20) and would only get 1 month free. I bought the new modem since it is saving me $58 a month for the next 6 months. They brought out a SB5120. I like it better than my old Linksys.
How do you figure it's saving you $58 a month?

ajwees41]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18354826 Fri, 18 May 2007 09:04:02 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18353658 Mospaw :
said by Voo See Profile :

Is the "50% off for 6mths" offer valid in LV?
You'll have to call them to see what the current offers are. They're always changing. And sometimes you can get a little extra if you ask nice.
said by Voo See Profile :

And does Cox use the SA modem out there?
I've got one. Had it for a while. It's working fine for me, but apparently others have issues.
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lol

Thanks for the feedback all.

Is the "50% off for 6mths" offer valid in LV? And does Cox use the SA modem out there? I plan to get the 10/1 plan, and heck... for 50% off for 6 mths, I'll buy the modem just so my cat can sleep on it O.o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18353174 Thu, 17 May 2007 22:33:58 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18352047 robertfl : They give you the scientific atlanta piece of crap modem. Your better off going to newegg.com and buying a modem there for $42 dollars.

Rob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18352047 Thu, 17 May 2007 18:54:48 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18351272 babwas : I just signed up with Cox again. They told me they no longer lease modems as a general rule here in Omaha, they would rather sell you one for $60. I told her I had a Linksys that was a couple years old I would like to use. I was informed that if I bought a modem from them I could get service for 1/2 off for 6 months and no install fee. If I used my old modem I had to pay for a self install kit ($20) and would only get 1 month free. I bought the new modem since it is saving me $58 a month for the next 6 months. They brought out a SB5120. I like it better than my old Linksys.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18351272 Thu, 17 May 2007 16:17:31 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18347923 Mospaw : I've got a WebStar that I purchased (I didn't' have a choice of brands) and it's perfectly fine. I've had it for around 8 months. I get good speed, etc. Never had a burp that wasn't cured quickly. I think it cost $25 as part of a promotion.

In the long run owning a modem is cheaper than renting. And you don't have to buy from COX. If you don't buy from them, make sure it's compatible.

No matter which modem you buy, make sure it's on surge protection or even a good UPS so it gets good clean power. You might even consider a surge suppressor for the cable line to protect it, but that's probably overkill.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18347632 Wed, 16 May 2007 22:55:29 EDT Re: [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18347447 m8trix : cox tends to use Motorola modem in most place and are very good,they like to use the SB5120.the SB5101 is the newer model and that is what i got and love it and im on a 12mb/1mb service and has been up 100% since having it for 2 months]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18347447 Wed, 16 May 2007 22:20:27 EDT [NV] Buy or Lease a Modem (for COX HSI)? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18347256 Voo : 1 week before I move to LV. I was looking at the pricing of Cox's offerings and I noticed that I have to rent a cable modem from them monthly.

After doing some research, it seems that it would be more cost-effective to just buy a modem ($50) and use that instead.

I was wondering...

1. Should I even buy my own modem or does the Cox-supplied modem work well? And will I run into problems if I use my own modem?

2. What would be a good modem to buy? It seems that the Motorola "Surfboard" models are going for about $50, but their D/L speed is limited to 38Mbps. If I get the Premier Tier (10MB down), will I be able to get 10 down?

3. Does anyone have another modem to suggest?

Thanks so much!!!

Vegas here I come!

-Voo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18347256 Wed, 16 May 2007 21:47:12 EDT