NoVA_CoxUser
Stand back from the cage -- The RF bites
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join:2004-07-06
Alexandria, VA
 ·Cox HSI
4 edits | reply to state
Re: Gulf Coast test info
said by state  : ... check out the page source in your browser....you'll see that the redirects all go through overture.com ... Nice explanation, thanks!
The enhanced features seem to be offline at the moment ... so I can't "experience" them myself ...
... but based on info provided in this thread so far, I must say that I too am pretty underwhelmed.
Verdict: Two thumbs down. |
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round_toit
Premium
join:2005-02-01
Pensacola, FL
| reply to coxengr
Previous screen shot I posted was truncated. Changed computers and now have a complete screen shot. Notice this is not the "Enhanced version" that Coxengr talked about. In the upper right hand corner it says "Enhance error results page". |
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THZNDUP
Deorum Offensa Diis Curae
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join:2003-09-18
Phoenix, AZ
| said by round_toit :... Notice this is not the "Enhanced version" that Coxengr talked about. In the upper right hand corner it says "Enhance error results page". And what should the Cox 'Enhanced version' of DNS do? If you get the syntax correct, should it take you to the page requested? If you misspell it or it doesn't exist, will it take you to an 'Enhanced error results page' maybe?
If you reread the OP, you should find that page is in fact what CoxEng was talking about. It substitutes a normal DNS error 'Page Not Found' with the one you posted. In fact he spells out 'enhanced error results' several times.
BTW, using Google as a DNS filter works pretty good. At least it almost always does a better job at speeling than I do.......  
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | reply to coxengr
Uber, mega, super important question...
Will this new "feature" affect CBS users ?
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Prove it... |
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wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
·Teliax VOIP
| reply to coxengr
So, when this rolls out nationwide, unless we take affirmative steps to change the DNS in all our equipment, you will only be providing broken DNS that provides no way for a machine to tell when the user types in an invalid address, or worse, to monitor a domain for correct A records, since anything and everything will return an 'A' record.
This is every bit as stupid as Verisign doing it. 
I don't know which I'd rather have, slow speed and PPPoE to make it worse, or idiotic schemes such as this. Actually, I do know. I'd rather have an ISP that provides RFC compliant services, rather than a broken service purporting to be DNS that actually isn't. |
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robertfl
Premium
join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL | Only for Gulfcoast users. Hopefully Cox Engneer will shut this down as it's been a failure.
Rob |
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THZNDUP
Deorum Offensa Diis Curae
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join:2003-09-18
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to wierdo
It looks as if they are providing another set of DNS servers so that you may 'opt out' of the enhanced service they are providing. Or at least they are for this test phase, I wonder how long they'll support two sets once it goes live........
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robertfl
Premium
join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL
·Cox VOIP
| Not an enhancement. I would like to see this drop period or give us a discount like the other person said. If there making extra money on the side, something needs to be done. PERIOD. I have no problem with a cable co making money. This is a sleazy way of doing it.
-Especially when I type DSLREPORTS.CO and get spyware removal software or whatever)
Two thumbs down from me, too.
(Still can't get the router to block the site.. GURR)
Rob |
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THZNDUP
Deorum Offensa Diis Curae
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join:2003-09-18
Phoenix, AZ | You can always 'opt out' and use 68.105.28.13 and 68.105.29.13 for your DNS.....  |
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BillRoland
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
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·Cox HSI
| reply to coxengr
This would be an example of a "HELPFUL" feature when you type in the wrong address. And magically enough, it even suggests the RIGHT site instead of trying to pawn a bunch of crap off on you.
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robertfl
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join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL | I wish they would just forward it to google with "hey you've typed it wrong here are the results" |
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round_toit
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join:2005-02-01
Pensacola, FL
| reply to THZNDUP
said by THZNDUP :said by round_toit :... Notice this is not the "Enhanced version" that Coxengr talked about. In the upper right hand corner it says "Enhance error results page". And what should the Cox 'Enhanced version' of DNS do? If you get the syntax correct, should it take you to the page requested? If you misspell it or it doesn't exist, will it take you to an 'Enhanced error results page' maybe? If you reread the OP, you should find that page is in fact what CoxEng was talking about. It substitutes a normal DNS error 'Page Not Found' with the one you posted. In fact he spells out 'enhanced error results' several times. BTW, using Google as a DNS filter works pretty good. At least it almost always does a better job at speeling than I do....... I recognized it was indeed the page coxengr was talking about, but it looked to me like this "beta version" needs more than just some spelling correction. I just had a dry humor way to trying to post the obvious grammatical error.
Sorry folks, I just don't see this as an "enhancement" but an "annoyance". Much rather just see a 404.
I wonder how many "team sessions" were wasted arriving at this piece of junk. I bet they already have the PR team creating advertising for TV espousing this miraculous new feature. |
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THZNDUP
Deorum Offensa Diis Curae
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join:2003-09-18
Phoenix, AZ
| In fact he spells out 'enhanced error results' several times.
I think it's safe to say CoxEngr didn't create that web page......
What result do you get instead of entering dslreports.con, if you enter another site such as........ cox.con?
At any rate, pretty poor showing not to make the leap from 'con' to 'com'. 
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BillRoland
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join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
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·Cox HSI
|  reply to round_toit
said by round_toit :I wonder how many "team sessions" were wasted arriving at this piece of junk. I bet they already have the PR team creating advertising for TV espousing this miraculous new feature. Well said, sir.
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fatness
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fishing
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| reply to coxengr
Earthlink began something similar last August: »Oh No They Didn't!
Unfortunately they didn't even offer the opt-out options until September, after enough complaints built up. »blogs.earthlink.net/2006/09/more···andl.php
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Sure, that'll work.. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | reply to coxengr
So if you put overture.com in your firewall does it defeat this crap?
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krod
meh
join:2007-04-08
1 edit | reply to coxengr
can't believe this crap... another way we're breaking shit.. |
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almex
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join:2001-09-18
Henderson, NV
clubs: | reply to coxengr
This is like déjà vu all over again! |
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robertfl
Premium
join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL | I really hope Cox management (upper) is reading this and taking in our inputs.
Sorry to give this a two thumbs down but this just totally sucks, guys.
Rob |
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coxengr
Premium,VIP
join:2002-03-09
Atlanta, GA
| reply to coxengr
Thanks for everyone's feedback. We ARE reading it.
I agree that typing a ".con" instead of ".com" should be within the bounds of a finding the right alternative (heck, it's in my example above). I'll look into why that's not working.
Again - for those that don't personally like this, there's an opt out option that's "RFC compliant". It will go away and you don't have to see any of it.
And as much as it may seem counterintuitive to you, our research definitely does indicate that most people find this helpful.
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