rradina
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Chesterfield, MO | Virtual vs. Physical While it's common to ask business to enforce government policy, the Internet is virtual and blocking sites seems futile -- unless the government creates a comprehensive "good list" and everything not on the list is blocked. I can't imagine that this wouldn't violate something in the constitution but...
The other thing that bothers me is if the ISPs are asked to block content, what happens when something slips through the cracks and someone dies? Are they liable because they failed to protect the public?
Why don't we figure out why folks want to buy from "illegal" pharmacies and determine if there is a way to eliminate this desire rather than trying to block it?
This reminds me of a story I heard. There was a stretch of highway where everyone was speeding. Government tried everyting to enforce the limit but in the end, everyone still drove too fast. Then someone decided to paint the dashed lines on the highway closer together. Everyone drove slower because the lines made them feel like they were driving faster. I don't know if it's true but sometimes problems have to be solved cooperatively rather than by force. |
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 major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA | said by rradina:Why don't we figure out why folks want to buy from "illegal" pharmacies and determine if there is a way to eliminate this desire rather than trying to block it? Because the "illegal pharmacy" thing is a complete myth. Big Pharma has a pecuniary interest in forcing Americans to buy significantly overpriced pharmaceuticals instead of allowing a choice to buy it from north of the border where the Canadian government collectively bargains for cheaper drug prices.
Americans pay the highest prescription drug prices on the planet not because the quality is so good, but because we are forced by Big Pharma to subsidize all the countries that collectively bargain for lower prices. This trickling down of the responsibility onto the heads of the ISPs to police online pharmacies is nothing more than an attempt initiated by bought and paid for politicians to throw up a smokescreen to disguise the intended purpose: to do the bidding for their Big Pharma masters. Standard Operating Procedure for the American federal government - Give it a warm & fuzzy, feel-good name to disguise the real intent. See also the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts.
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Alexandria, VA | said by major marco:Standard Operating Procedure for the American federal government - Give it a warm & fuzzy, feel-good name to disguise the real intent. See also the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts. But what about the children? Think about the children!
Besides, terrorists are who really benefit from illegal pharmacies.
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major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
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Stepford, CA | said by nixen:[...]terrorists are who really benefit from illegal pharmacies. Actually, the "illegal" pharmacies ARE the terrarists.
I hear Canada will be the next country that will be invaded for selling Americans prescription pharmaceuticals on the web. We have to be "protected" from cheaper drugs, dont'cha know.
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nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | said by major marco:said by nixen:[...]terrorists are who really benefit from illegal pharmacies. Actually, the "illegal" pharmacies ARE the terrarists. I hear Canada will be the next country that will be invaded for selling Americans prescription pharmaceuticals on the web. We have to be "protected" from cheaper drugs, dont'cha know. Oh well. At least when that happens, won't to make too deep of an incursion. For some odd reason, most of them `nuck-critters are all bunched up at the border with the US.
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 morboComplete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000 | reply to major marco
said by major marco:because we are forced by Big Pharma to subsidize all the countries that collectively bargain for lower prices. i disagree. these companies make extreme profits even with the agreements and lower prices other countries pay. Pharmacy companies can and do charge U.S. citizens a lot for drugs because they can (standard of living here, broken healthcare system, drug patents) even though they whine that "R&D costs" are so much blah blah blah. that is definitely part of the cost, but the rest is huge ad campaigns, etc.
remember that the pharmacy industry has the most consistently lucrative profits in this country. they aren't hurtin' one bit. keep those ePharmacies open! |
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 Lil JonPremium
join:2006-06-26
Cincinnati, OH | reply to major marco
said by major marco:said by rradina:Why don't we figure out why folks want to buy from "illegal" pharmacies and determine if there is a way to eliminate this desire rather than trying to block it? Because the "illegal pharmacy" thing is a complete myth. Big Pharma has a pecuniary interest in forcing Americans to buy significantly overpriced pharmaceuticals instead of allowing a choice to buy it from north of the border where the Canadian government collectively bargains for cheaper drug prices. Americans pay the highest prescription drug prices on the planet not because the quality is so good, but because we are forced by Big Pharma to subsidize all the countries that collectively bargain for lower prices. This trickling down of the responsibility onto the heads of the ISPs to police online pharmacies is nothing more than an attempt initiated by bought and paid for politicians to throw up a smokescreen to disguise the intended purpose: to do the bidding for their Big Pharma masters. Standard Operating Procedure for the American federal government - Give it a warm & fuzzy, feel-good name to disguise the real intent. See also the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts. yup. it's messed up how htis country is. |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to nixen
Of course us Canadians (some living in L.A.) live near the border... how else do we protect it from illegals entering Canada from the U.S. 
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Ahrenl
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North Andover, MA | reply to nixen
it's because they're planning to invade. It will be a migratory invasion where they resettle in the Appalachian's, mostly in West Virgina. |
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en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to morbo
Its an open market for big pharma in the U.S.... they can charge as much as they want and have competition as well (limited). The VA hospitals collectively bargain and have much lower rates than any hospital/insurance plan would get. Why ? Because there's too much money to be made between the pharma, hospitals, doctors, lawyers, sales, and insurance companies which make billions on this stuff.
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 RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | reply to rradina
said by rradina:This reminds me of a story I heard. There was a stretch of highway where everyone was speeding. Government tried everyting to enforce the limit but in the end, everyone still drove too fast. Then someone decided to paint the dashed lines on the highway closer together. Everyone drove slower because the lines made them feel like they were driving faster. I don't know if it's true but sometimes problems have to be solved cooperatively rather than by force. While I can not confirm this story it sounds plausible to me. I read once that there are regulations (rules?) about what the length and spacing (gaps) of the divider lines are supposed to be which are based on the designated speed limit for that section of road. It is based on the lines strobing at a set rate. If you get the wrong rate the driver will feel uncomfortable and will unconsciously adjust their speed to become comfortable again. The article I read this in claimed that the deliberate mispainting of the lines was a frequent tactic in areas where some Police Departments want to set up a speed traps (the road is painted to cause the driver to speed up while the signs are set to say slow down). The driver is tricked into violating the posted speed limit or to not slow down when entering the speed trap which is set up past the point where the speed limit has been lowered. It also mentioned a case where just after the state speed limit was lowered on a limited access highway, the roads were repainted (as part of periodic maintenance) with the lines set for the old higher speed limit (unintentionally turning the road into a speed trap). There was a suit that forced the speeding cases to get tossed out and the old limit be declared the de facto speed limit until the roads were correctly repainted. |
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"The other thing that bothers me is if the ISPs are asked to block content, what happens when something slips through the cracks and someone dies? Are they liable because they failed to protect the public?"
That's why we opted out of providing "Child Safe" filters. The first kid that sees a boobie is going to have parents threating to sue. No matter how great of a filter you use stuff will get through. |
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said by major marco:said by rradina: nothing more than an attempt initiated by bought and paid for politicians to throw up a smokescreen to disguise the intended purpose: And that's how government works in a nutshell. --
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